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Well that was certainly a strange one, even for Hull Fc.
Started like a train threatening to demolish all before us, the disallowed tries seemed to un-nerve us and from that point onwards we very quickly lost our bearings ending up a very well beaten side indeed.

Just as I wasn't convinced after the Catalan game that we hadn't suddenly turned into serious challengers for the big prizes, so I'm not as equally convinced that we are nowhere near as bad as last night seemed to suggest.

We are still, unfortunately, nothing more than a mid table side as we have been for a number of years now. A mid table side who are capable of good days, bad days, indifferent days and all points inbetween. Last night was one of the bad ones. It will be counterbalanced at some point by a good one. The end result come August will probably be our usual 7th/8th spot which, realistically, I think is where most of us expected to be.

I don't profess to know the answers to this seemingly never ending circle of good/bad/indifferent/ad nauseaum, but there are deeper issues at play here that merely changing the head coach will only have a superficial effect on. There are long standing problems with regard to attitude and culture, possibly going back years, which remain at the root cause of our inability to maximise the potential of the club.

In the immediate short term, we once again find ourselves approaching a 3 game run around Easter time which may possibly define 2016 for Hull Fc. 3 wins on the bounce and the picture will look a good deal healthier. 1 from 3 however will leave us with a lot of work to do to even make the top 8 which will be beyond the pale for most of us on here.

All we can hope right now is that the players are determined to get the season back on track as soon as, which was hopefully the reasoning behind the bizarre goings on in the dressing room last night.

You would have thought we would be used to this drama/crisis/ecstasy by now wouldn't you

. Life's never dull in Fc land that's for sure. Keep the faith everyone, it's not as if we haven't been down this road before (too many times, eh)

Good at directly running towards touchlines. Said before this season started that it was make or break for him and I've seen nothing to suggest that he's the answer at half back. His kicking isn't even as good as some make out but his creative play is bordering on a joke. Abdull was also poor last night. Pryce can't cut it physically now but when he does interject into the game he's different class to any other half at Hull.

Brown takes the game to the opposition. He runs on both sides of the pitch, not just one side, and takes the ball to the line. Time after time. Not all of his passes are effective but most are. He steps before the line then passes back over his step or takes the other option. He kicks the ball high and makes it hard to catch. It's not world class but boy does it show just how poor our creative players are.

I thought snyed would come good but really started to doubt him now. It's one thing trying and playing poorly but he just seems happy to let Houghton give it to the forwards time and again. A good half wants to boss the show and show his skill set. Unless he seriously turns his form around I'd drop him for Dean or Wilson. At least they would bring enthusiasm and maybe ask some questions. How many times do you look back at a game and can't think of anything your scrum half has done.

So in short been a bang average bag of side for years so no harm if we carry on like that? Are you for real?

scrape a win against wakey, lose to the dobbins on good friday, giving them their first win, lose to wire and saints, goodbye radford i reckon

he has turned us into bradford bulls 2000 era, beat'em up the middle gameplan and nothing else

To all those on here who wanted Pryce dropped, do you still believe he should stay on the side-lines when fit?

I wish we had played you now instead of the 1st game. You looked a shambles, can't wait to play u at our!

should be an interesting game, we may have a new coach, may not, you may have had 20 points deducted and going through the motions waiting for our grudge game in the middle 8s lol

btw this whole reply is tic

I'm just amazed how poor you are now. I put a tenner on you for top 4 after 1sy two matches as your pack looked immense. Seems everyone's Sussed you out. .move the ball one out and shift your pack about, then hit you out wide. You seemed very leggy last night.

With regards to points deduction, not really bothered as its a board room issue. Am enjoying watching us play rugby at the mo and playing as a team instead of show ponies

Your sides gash pal, full of travel men who can't hold onto a lead.

Wait till you come to ours. On that performance your in for a red face pal

Spot on!
I thought the same seeing Brown. He's not a world beater, but just a very effective half back who picked us off throughout the game. His game management was solid and he executed most of his plays very well.

Seems ages since we had a Game Manager. We need one urgently, ideally with someone in charge who can inspire and motivate them.

For sure.

Brown is as close as you can get to Cooke, we should be employing Cooke to work with our halfs, in fact for now just work with Sneyd and long term the young halfs.

No he isn't. Completely different type of player.

If you say so, I disagree, Brown runs the show, organises, kicks and has a great pass, pretty much what Cooke did for Hull. Brown has a better running game though.

Agree that Cooke gave us a similar level of control and options.

Unfortunately, despite what he gave us as a player I wouldn't want him anywhere near the KC until he's paid back all his pay from the contract that he never signed or gave us the transfer fee we should have had, had he signed the contract that he was happy to be receiving money from. He could then apologise. Once he's done all that, only then would I want him considered for a coaching role.

Cooke should be remembered as a Hull legend. For me, he threw all that away the day he marketed himself on the grounds he had 't signed the contract and only he could have known that.

Old ground I know, but what Cooke did to the club in that one action, ruined everything that he had ever achieved for us before.

You must lead an unhappy life if you continue for years to harbour grudges.

From what have seen your pack is your strength yet the team seem to play with the mentality of smashing a team through the middle, all the time.there is no plan b. I'd stand Pritchard and your other second row one out and look and spreading your packs power wider. It would ease the presuure on the centre's and create more busts. You have the best pack in SL yet tackling techniques out wide are poor. They don't face up and always let the attacker past and seen to be pulling him back. Hit him head on and move your feet. Here endeth my sermon

Very happy life thanks.

Just not ready to forgive someone who has never shown remorse for what he did to our club.

The other week we were discussing how bad it was fans trying to lie about their age to save a few pounds on admission. Yet Cooke's deliberate actions indirectly cost the club £10,000's of pounds, but every now and again we hear the call to welcome him back as if nothing had happened.

If I got burguled and had lots stolen, I wouldn't then invite the culprit round for coffee.

So call me sad if you want, but I would rather not have Cooke involved with the club again.

We definitley play to narrow , hence we get done out wide easily, playing so narrow in attack is just predicatable and boring, we've outstanding 2nd rowers getting wasted by these boring , predicatable tactics

Not had much to say today pal? Beetroot chops! Beaten by a team who will finish in the bottom 4.

Isn't the problem more that our 3 veteran back row forwards are just there for the taking by teams with speedy intelligent halves? Not sure we have a forward that could do what Farrell did this going forward and if we do get busted through the middle - inside ball to good line runners - we're in trouble and relying on the wide defenders coming in.

can see your point, but mini is quick for a second rower as is manu,ellis I will give you and the tank we have yet to see him on a gallop,plus if Thompson plays he is quick,