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| Quote ="Standee"But what about the clueless tactics, failing to make substitutions and generally being garbage, how are they looking to fix that?
Do you really think the board are backing Agar because they have faith, or because they know our season has been pretty much over for weeks and it's just cheaper to keep him on?'"
The same board that had the bottle sack a previous coach? Maybe their is no hidden agenda here - just backing a coach they think (rightly or wrongly) can do a job next season.
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| Quote ="BlackNwhite"your minds already made up mate, as mine is. Nothing will convince you, and lets face it, give it a few months and i might be on the hate train myself
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Im not on a hate train cos that implies its personal, which it very much isnt. Maybe it should be called a highly dis-satisfied and dis-illusioned train?
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| Quote ="Pookie"The same board that had the bottle sack a previous coach? Maybe their is no hidden agenda here - just backing a coach they think (rightly or wrongly) can do a job next season.'"
Think thats definately right, although they do still seem to go for the cheap option in the most key area of first team coach.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Think thats definately right, although they do still seem to go for the cheap option in the most key area of first team coach.'"
Think thats a bit unfair. They could have gone for an experienced (Aussie) coach when Sharp was sacked. But I think the fan base wanted and accepted the descision of giving Agar a chance.
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| Quote ="Pookie"Think thats a bit unfair. They could have gone for an experienced (Aussie) coach when Sharp was sacked. But I think the fan base wanted and accepted the descision of giving Agar a chance.'"
When Agar was appointed we didn't have any money, remember we'd sacked two coaches in succession by this point.
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| Quote ="Pookie"Think thats a bit unfair. They could have gone for an experienced (Aussie) coach when Sharp was sacked. But I think the fan base wanted and accepted the descision of giving Agar a chance.'"
Kear was a reserve coach at the time and cheap
Sharp was a failed first team coach but a great assistant and therefore cheaper
Agar was a supported decision at the time by some but still cheap.
The last expensive coach we must have had was Mcrae. At the 3 points of appointment above we could have gone for a more expensive option and brought in someone like Graham Murray, Ian Millward or Steve Foulkes but we always chose not to. The only driver behind this can be money and the cheap option.
I bet you if we had have brought in one of the big name coaches above we would be in a far better position that we are now.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Kear was a reserve coach at the time and cheap
Sharp was a failed first team coach but a great assistant and therefore cheaper
Agar was a supported decision at the time by some but still cheap.
The last expensive coach we must have had was Mcrae. At the 3 points of appointment above we could have gone for a more expensive option and brought in someone like Graham Murray, Ian Millward or Steve Foulkes but we always chose not to. The only driver behind this can be money and the cheap option.
I bet you if we had have brought in one of the big name coaches above we would be in a far better position that we are now.'"
But relatively with these "cheap" coaches I have seen more success than any other time than in the 20 years I have been watching the club.
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| Quote ="Pookie"But relatively with these "cheap" coaches I have seen more success than any other time than in the 20 years I have been watching the club.'"
Fair point. Ive also seen some of the worst performances, especially in the last season. Opens up the arguement again i guess of winning the cup in 2005 but playing poor in the league/in general etc.
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| maybe the board dont want to pay compensation to Agar until next year, so they can say we had a proffitable season despite the absolute dross we've had to watch?
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| Quote ="Holty"maybe the board dont want to pay compensation to Agar until next year, so they can say we had a proffitable season despite the absolute dross we've had to watch?'"
His £4.50 a week shouldn't make much difference.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"His £4.50 a week shouldn't make much difference.'"
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"His £4.50 a week shouldn't make much difference.'"
That's the problem though, just how much is he getting paid, someone banded about a figure of £1500 a week, he'd never earn that anywhere else.
I guess we're all just fed up, would love to know we had someone like Bennet/Kearney coming in but we simply have to accept that, for whatever reasons, our ambitions are restricted to players at the end of their careers and "projects".
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| Quote ="Standee"That's the problem though, just how much is he getting paid, someone banded about a figure of £1500 a week, he'd never earn that anywhere else.
I guess we're all just fed up, would love to know we had someone like Bennet/Kearney coming in but we simply have to accept that, for whatever reasons, our ambitions are restricted to players at the end of their careers and "projects".'"
As paying customers we shouldn't be accepting anything like we are getting.
Can ANYBODY name any other business that would get away with supplying their customers with such an inferior product?
If Agar IS on £1500 it's a disgrace, 60k a year for an unproven coach....PATHETIC, especially when I can't see Sharp being on less than 30k.
90k per year on two of the worst coaches SL has ever seen.
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| Quote ="Standee"But what about the clueless tactics, failing to make substitutions and generally being garbage, how are they looking to fix that?
Do you really think the board are backing Agar because they have faith, or because they know our season has been pretty much over for weeks and it's just cheaper to keep him on?'"
Maybe a bit of both, I do think they believe in him and that despite his mistakes are backing him to get it right.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Maybe a bit of both, I do think they believe in him and that despite his mistakes are backing him to get it right.'"
The same people that ratified signing Thorma?
Full of confidence in their opinion, honest I am.
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| Quote ="Standee"The same people that ratified signing Thorma?
Full of confidence in their opinion, honest I am.'"
Also the same people who have signed on quality players for next season.
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| Quote ="Stan Butler"As paying customers we shouldn't be accepting anything like we are getting.
Can ANYBODY name any other business that would get away with supplying their customers with such an inferior product?
If Agar IS on £1500 it's a disgrace, 60k a year for an unproven coach....PATHETIC, especially when I can't see Sharp being on less than 30k.
90k per year on two of the worst coaches SL has ever seen.'"
Its actually 78K if Agar is on 1500 a week! Sharp will be on far more than 30k - i wouldn't get out of bed for that!
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Also the same people who have signed on quality players for next season.'"
Quality?
People coming to the end of their careers looking for a pension top up you mean? (well, certainly Fitzgibbon and Long)
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| Quote ="Standee"Quality?
People coming to the end of their careers looking for a pension top up you mean? (well, certainly Fitzgibbon and Long)'"
Well looking at who you want for coach, you would only be impressed with Folau, Inglis and Slater by the sounds of it.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Well looking at who you want for coach, you would only be impressed with Folau, Inglis and Slater by the sounds of it.'"
Yes, it's called ambition Paul.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"How about all of us actually go to the next home game but dont go into the stadium. We could all sit out in west park. Empty stadium would be pretty powerful.'"
thyy wouldnt be bothered already got 10,000 of us cash
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| Quote ="Standee"Yes, it's called unrealistic ambition Paul.'"
Typo.
So when you get to December and none of these players will come what do you do next?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Typo.
So when you get to December and none of these players will come what do you do next?'"
They'd come for the right money Paul, it is what irks me about FC, we pay over the odds for journeymen players, if we are really operating at near full cap that is.
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| Quote ="Standee"They'd come for the right money Paul, it is what irks me about FC, we pay over the odds for journeymen players, if we are really operating at near full cap that is.'"
But when you are talking about superstars it's impossible to sign a few of them up, not with the cap to consider.
As for this seasons cap, we are nowhere near spending it, not even close.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"But when you are talking about superstars it's impossible to sign a few of them up, not with the cap to consider.
As for this seasons cap, we are nowhere near spending it, not even close.'"
How do Leeds and Saints manage to have a team of stars then, hell, even Rovers manage to have quality, we have G.Horne and Kingy!
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