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| Quote ="bonaire"I certainly dont want to move Fonua from centre to the wing but Radford brought him to the club to play wing now he is centre.
Tuimavave was brought to the club to play centre and now he is the answer to our problem at 6.
Unfortunately i think Radford initially had it right identifying Tuimavave as a centre but has got it wrong thinking he is the answer to our problem at 6.
I can see him moving Fonua to the wing next season.
I dont know enough about Griffin suffice to say he is the typical Radford signing for a back big strong runner but lets hope he can defend.
Connor for me is a waste and will be a fringe utility player like Naughton.
If Abdul was that good he would be on a long term contract but we all know he is off contract at the end of the season.Talent yes, but needs to massively up his fitness levels and find some pace.Think the club will give him another year to show what he can or cant do.
Some fans will see the half back situation like you do and others like me will see we can go to another level with an established 6 pushing our attack.
We are still poor in the opposition 20 ball in hand and rely too much on kicks.
A quality 6 like Brough in our side would make a massive difference.'"
We have had our best season so far in a very long time we are 2nd in league with the first cup up for grabs in the bag, we've 2nd best attack/defence so how you make out we are rubbish with ball in hand in the 20 is not what I see as been poor, as for broughy we did try but the fee was massive as he's contracted for another 2 years, plus broughy is the same his kicks outweigh his passes.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"We have had our best season so far in a very long time we are 2nd in league with the first cup up for grabs in the bag, we've 2nd best attack/defence so how you make out we are rubbish with ball in hand in the 20 is not what I see as been poor, as for broughy we did try but the fee was massive as he's contracted for another 2 years, plus broughy is the same his kicks outweigh his passes.'"
The man is a fine art critic or a Dobbins troll, don't fall for it. I do it all the time then regret it.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"The man is a fine art critic or a Dobbins troll, don't fall for it. I do it all the time then regret it.'"
I'm not biting at all lol, just we've had a cracking year (this far) with what I believe as a good strong squad for 2017, some are picking the bones & asking what ifs before this years even over, we've won the biggest game that most of us wanted more then anything, but don't seem happy I would dread to think what would be posted if we derailed weeks ago.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"We have had our best season so far in a very long time we are 2nd in league with the first cup up for grabs in the bag, we've 2nd best attack/defence so how you make out we are rubbish with ball in hand in the 20 is not what I see as been poor, as for broughy we did try but the fee was massive as he's contracted for another 2 years, plus broughy is the same his kicks outweigh his passes.'"
I only used Danny Brough as an example but he does run the ball a lot more than any of our halfs and we know what a good kicking game he has.
Most of our tries come from kicks or a short ball to a forward nr the line rather than opening up a team with ball in hand in the opposition 20.
Dont get me wrong im loving this season but can see what we are missing.
As i said i still think the club will bring in an established 6 for next season.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"The man is a fine art critic or a Dobbins troll, don't fall for it. I do it all the time then regret it.'"
You dont know who i am and im certainly not a HKR supporter.
If you dont like debate then go back and watch the television.
You call yourself a HFC supporter but you dont even know that Abdull is currently off contract at the end of this season.
My post is about taking this team to the next level which an established six would do.
Please reply if you have anything meaningful to say which i doubt.
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| Quote ="bonaire"I only used Danny Brough as an example but he does run the ball a lot more than any of our halfs and we know what a good kicking game he has.
Most of our tries come from kicks or a short ball to a forward nr the line rather than opening up a team with ball in hand in the opposition 20.
Dont get me wrong im loving this season but can see what we are missing.
As i said i still think the club will bring in an established 6 for next season.'"
Think recruitments done other then the likes of yeamo, unless something goes wrong with our squad or a top player becomes available, but I believe that it's done.
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| I reckon we are a stand off away from winning a trophy.
If we sign a six next year I honestly think we will win the cup and finish in the top 4.
It's so obvious I can't believe Radford can't see it and all those fans can.
Been a real disaster this year having the likes of Carlos at 6.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I reckon we are a stand off away from winning a trophy.
If we sign a six next year I honestly think we will win the cup and finish in the top 4.
It's so obvious I can't believe Radford can't see it and all those fans can.
Been a real disaster this year having the likes of Carlos at 6.'"
Started reading this & thought he's lost his mind....lol
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| Quote ="Dave K."I reckon we are a stand off away from winning a trophy.
If we sign a six next year I honestly think we will win the cup and finish in the top 4.
It's so obvious I can't believe Radford can't see it and all those fans can.
Been a real disaster this year having the likes of Carlos at 6.'"
To be honest if we signed a proven off half, never mind top four , I reckon we could get a game away from the Grand Final. Carlos could take over from Yeanan who's been rubbish as well.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I reckon we are a stand off away from winning a trophy.
If we sign a six next year I honestly think we will win the cup and finish in the top 4.
It's so obvious I can't believe Radford can't see it and all those fans can.
Been a real disaster this year having the likes of Carlos at 6.'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"You dont know who i am and im certainly not a HKR supporter.
If you dont like debate then go back and watch the television.
You call yourself a HFC supporter but you dont even know that Abdull is currently off contract at the end of this season.
My post is about taking this team to the next level which an established six would do.
Please reply if you have anything meaningful to say which i doubt.'"
That was my way of trying to point out that Abdull is off contract to posters who continue to state he could be our six next season. As for debate, there is none with you. You continually state your one single view regards Carlos, you wanted Yeamo dropping for Carlos to move to centre, a bit like the small child who continually shouts at the back of the room, until an adult takes notice. I don't call myself an HFC supporter, I am one and have been for a seriously long time, through all the lean years. I will continue to let Motu do the recruiting, which I believe, is finished for next season but heyho, we've been surprised before.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Shaul
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I think that's what I would be leaning towards, but I would also be going into preseason open minded about stand off, because Connor has the skill set to do we'll there too.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Why are binning Michaels and keeping Naughton ?
Sorry to say , but Naughton is just not SL level .'"
Prior to Friday -always a game that wasn't going to be pretty or easy to stand out in in an attack sense 1 of naughtons last games was v salford...He was hulls MOM. Against michaels he averages more metre per carry. Has a better try ratio. Makes more tackle busts. More breaks and He's 21 . Stats don't tell the full story. Michaels playing ahead of naughton right now is right.
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| Main faults with Naughton is he's gets caught out too much in defence and due to his size or lack of he gets pushed back too much when returning the ball due to lack of size and strength.
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| Naughton isn't going to return the ball like Talanoa, but he's faster and has years of improvement in him. A little to early to write him off IMO but his lack of size/power is a concern given how we use our wingers. I'm pretty sure the coaching staff are already aware of this though.
I'm not too concerned about his defence TBH. Our whole left edge was poor on Friday and he was left high and dry on several occasions by Talanoa. Assuming he plays on the right next season with Fonua inside him he should do a lot better and as mentioned he has plenty of time to improve.
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| Michaels is looking better at the minute because of game time, match fitness & confidence, but Naughton would be on par with him if he'd have played as many minutes, I see the club not retaining Micheals as a financial decision & none other, for his wage alone we can keep Naughton & improve some of the younger lads wages which in the future is better for the club, as a few was not going to resign unless improved contracts was on the table, smart move by motu & co imo.
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| Quote ="bonaire"The players you mention may be able to play 6 but they dont enhance the team as an attacking side.
You say 6 is more of a running game and Carlos has the right attributes to play a running 6 but have you seen him run the ball since he has been playing six?
All he is doing is receiving and safe passing however his defence has improved since he arrived.
We will get the best of Tuimavave back in the centre where he has more room to run and back up breaks.
We need an established six to take this team to the next level.There is no point wishing and hoping Carlos will suddenly develop into a top 6 he wont.
Whatever you say i still expect the club to sign an established 6 how and from where i dont know.'"
Don't know if we'll sign anyone but I agree with your sentiment.
I think that we'll finish up with Connor at 6 and Carlos in the centre.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Naughton isn't going to return the ball like Talanoa, but he's faster and has years of improvement in him. A little to early to write him off IMO but his lack of size/power is a concern given how we use our wingers. I'm pretty sure the coaching staff are already aware of this though.
I'm not too concerned about his defence TBH. Our whole left edge was poor on Friday and he was left high and dry on several occasions by Talanoa. Assuming he plays on the right next season with Fonua inside him he should do a lot better and as mentioned he has plenty of time to improve.'"
His averages are game to game better than michaels at 21 yrs old. And hes been unlucky. In at least 3 or 4 of his games theyve been among our worst as a team. He'll be fine and get better stronger bigger etc. I love michaels but I think naughton has more Xfactor about him and the potential to be much better.
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| naughton was excellent when he had a run in the side earlier in the season and was unlucky to lose his place to michaels. Naughton is unfortunate we have shaul as I think FB is his best position and he may decide to leave at some point to play there full time
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| I wonder if Nick Rawsthorne might be an outside bet to play centre or wing, played 3 first team games for Halifax and MOTM in 2 of them, could be a great signing by Radford
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| Squad v Wigan
1. Jamie Shaul 2. Mahe Fonua 3. Carlos Tuimavave 5. Fetuli Talanoa 7. Marc Sneyd 8. Scott Taylor 9. Danny Houghton 10. Liam Watts 11. Gareth Ellis 12. Mark Minichiello 15. Chris Green 16. Jordan Thompson 17. Dean Hadley 19. Steve Michaels 21. Sika Manu 22. Josh Bowden 23. Frank Pritchard 24. Kirk Yeaman 30. Danny Washbrook.
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| Full strength except Logan.
The league is ours to lose.
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| Wigans 19.
Bateman, Bretherton, Charnley, Crosby, Farrell, Flower, Gelling, Isa, Nuuausala, Powell, Sarginson, Shorrocks, Smith, Sutton, Tautai, Tierney, Tomkins, Wells, Williams.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Wigans 19.
Bateman, Bretherton, Charnley, Crosby, Farrell, Flower, Gelling, Isa, Nuuausala, Powell, Sarginson, Shorrocks, Smith, Sutton, Tautai, Tierney, Tomkins, Wells, Williams.'"
Strong side, despite some missing.
A few cracking individuals that can be great to watch in that team too; Gelling, Williams, Bateman & Tomkins (when he can be bothered). Such a pity they have Wane as their coach doing is level best to coach any flair out of the side.
Looking forward to Friday
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