And FWIW...

Having looked at the incident a few times there's no doubt in my mind that there was no intent to injure. However, I'd definitely call it reckless which will mean he picks up a ban of some sort.

Sneyd lets go when McGuire kicks him so are you of the belief that an ankle can break/injure simply by someone letting go of it?

That he's in pain is exactly why he'd kick out. If you had a broken hand and someone tried squeezing it would you not try hitting them off you with your other hand?

Didn't realise you were kirk yeaman.
Sorry Kirk the next time you make more than two metres from a scoot ill definitely mention it on here.

I would have thought the obvious response to someone twisting your left leg would be to kick with your right to get them off.

Dab

Sa need dropping 6 missed tackles and 35 metres from 9 carries, which is an average gain of 3.89 metres, 1 error and 2 penalties.

Possible the worst stats this season from any player, been really disappointing the last few weeks.

McDermott didn't call for Sneyd to be banned, he said McGuire shouldn't have been sin binned.

Has he been calling for Sneyd to be banned? I've not read or heard any quotes afterwards from him along those lines. Like I said his major gripe with the incident afterwards is that McGuire was sin binned also.

Do you honestly think he wouldn't have talked about it post match if we were playing Salford or Hudds next weekend instead?

Tbh he doesn't have to try and get Sneyd banned, I think it's pretty obvious he's going to miss some games even if McDermott doesn't say a word.

He was surprised that someone was sin binned for kicking another player in the head? How odd.


Almost certainly (I never put 100% certainty on anything to do with the RFL Disciplinary Panel). But not relevant to the point at hand.

When that someone was possibly having his other ankle broke at the time and kicking out in more an act of getting the guy off his injured foot rather than just randomly booting him for no reason, then yes. And not so much surprised, frustrated that common sense didn't prevail.



It's completely relevant. Trying to make out that McDermott has/will use the media to get Sneyd banned for this Friday when it's fairly obvious to everyone that Sneyd will be missing it anyway regardless of what is/isn't said in the media.

whether it's deliberate to injure or not, Sneyd has him by the ankle/lower leg and rolls over as DM is getting to his feet. That said it's not remotely like the one that that shathouse Elima did when he tried to rip Heremia's ankle off which was as deliberate as you'll get and was against the knee joint too (but still only got a 4 match ban) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JEQ9HJG34 I expect Sneyd to get 4 because there's no way he'll be found not guilty, not after the ref binned him specifically for twisting the leg The Printer, sorry but this particular tackle despite it not being good was never a leg breaker, DM kicking out direct to a players head like that is reckless in itself, being wronged doesn't make it right to do another wrong especially with the boot.

whether it's deliberate to injure or not, Sneyd has him by the ankle/lower leg and rolls over as DM is getting to his feet. That said it's not remotely like the one that that shathouse Elima did when he tried to rip Heremia's ankle off which was as deliberate as you'll get and was against the knee joint too (but still only got a 4 match ban) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JEQ9HJG34 I expect Sneyd to get 4 because there's no way he'll be found not guilty, not after the ref binned him specifically for twisting the leg The Printer, sorry but this particular tackle despite it not being good was never a leg breaker, DM kicking out direct to a players head like that is reckless in itself, being wronged doesn't make it right to do another wrong especially with the boot.

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"whether it's deliberate to injure or not, Sneyd has him by the ankle/lower leg and rolls over as DM is getting to his feet. That said it's not remotely like the one that that shathouse Elima did when he tried to rip Heremia's ankle off which was as deliberate as you'll get and was against the knee joint too (but still only got a 4 match ban) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JEQ9HJG34 I expect Sneyd to get 4 because there's no way he'll be found not guilty, not after the ref binned him specifically for twisting the leg The Printer, sorry but this particular tackle despite it not being good was never a leg breaker, DM kicking out direct to a players head like that is reckless in itself, being wronged doesn't make it right to do another wrong especially with the boot.'" Not saying it's right but then again have you ever had you ankle possibly broken by someone holding onto it? Could you honestly say your immediate reaction wouldn't be to kick out to get him off your foot?

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"whether it's deliberate to injure or not, Sneyd has him by the ankle/lower leg and rolls over as DM is getting to his feet. That said it's not remotely like the one that that shathouse Elima did when he tried to rip Heremia's ankle off which was as deliberate as you'll get and was against the knee joint too (but still only got a 4 match ban) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JEQ9HJG34 I expect Sneyd to get 4 because there's no way he'll be found not guilty, not after the ref binned him specifically for twisting the leg The Printer, sorry but this particular tackle despite it not being good was never a leg breaker, DM kicking out direct to a players head like that is reckless in itself, being wronged doesn't make it right to do another wrong especially with the boot.'" Not saying it's right but then again have you ever had you ankle possibly broken by someone holding onto it? Could you honestly say your immediate reaction wouldn't be to kick out to get him off your foot?

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"whether it's deliberate to injure or not, Sneyd has him by the ankle/lower leg and rolls over as DM is getting to his feet. That said it's not remotely like the one that that shathouse Elima did when he tried to rip Heremia's ankle off which was as deliberate as you'll get and was against the knee joint too (but still only got a 4 match ban) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JEQ9HJG34 I expect Sneyd to get 4 because there's no way he'll be found not guilty, not after the ref binned him specifically for twisting the leg The Printer, sorry but this particular tackle despite it not being good was never a leg breaker, DM kicking out direct to a players head like that is reckless in itself, being wronged doesn't make it right to do another wrong especially with the boot.'" Ref didn't bin him for twisting the leg, he binned him for holding on.

Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"whether it's deliberate to injure or not, Sneyd has him by the ankle/lower leg and rolls over as DM is getting to his feet. That said it's not remotely like the one that that shathouse Elima did when he tried to rip Heremia's ankle off which was as deliberate as you'll get and was against the knee joint too (but still only got a 4 match ban) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JEQ9HJG34 I expect Sneyd to get 4 because there's no way he'll be found not guilty, not after the ref binned him specifically for twisting the leg The Printer, sorry but this particular tackle despite it not being good was never a leg breaker, DM kicking out direct to a players head like that is reckless in itself, being wronged doesn't make it right to do another wrong especially with the boot.'" Ref didn't bin him for twisting the leg, he binned him for holding on.

There's just quite simply nothing in it.

No he did him for the twist. The highlights are on the Sky Sports website and it shows you Hicks binning him and signalling to him with his hands that it was a twist.

Some of the defending of Sneyd on here is laughable.
People posting on here "imo it wasn't intentional "
And doing their own video analysis and criticising McDermott for defending his own player when why wouldn't he and we'd expect Radford to do the same.
Its like fans on here close ranks to defend the inexcusable just because he is a hull player and people dare to criticise the black and whites.
The only person who will know if it's intentional or not is Sneyd himself.
However what Sneyd will know is that sort of crocodile role on a person's joint or ankle will cause damage or pain and if the intention was just to slow the play down why not just lay there and hold on but to roll on the leg like that is excessive and uncalled for.
I have had my leg broken in the tackle and my first reaction was to punch the player that did it because the pain was so excruciating. Not saying it's right but that was my response to the pain so McGuire even for the sh1 t he is, is in pain a natural reaction would to be lash out.
Snyed had a bad afternoon yesterday and that was the cherry on top.
Yes everyone's opinion is different but had that happened the other way around would be equally as vocal defending or making excuses for the offending player I think not.
Would we be on here calling for his head most probably a la elima.

Agreed.

Some of the comment on here. No matter how much you play it down it won't change the truth



Nothing in it? Look closely. McGuire plants his other leg to get up and play the ball quickly. Sneyd does a hugely blatant roll and has possibly broken his ankle.

Actually at the time when I was quite a way from the incident and it did look as though McGuire had kicked out an Sneyd just for holding down. As an honest fan I said "McGuire could get a big game ban (3+) for that". Don't be scared of the truth, it won't change the minds of the disciplinary.

Hugely blatant roll



Give your head a bang?

Hope the disciplinary view it the same as the stamp on Talanoa last week at Catalan.

All the same arguments could be used against that in as much as only the player himself knows how much he meant it.

Don't recall many Hull fans posting about it and asking for his head.

Most definitely - as clear as night follows day.

Agree with that - seems to be permanently struggling for fitness during the game which would lead to those stats. Seems to only have an effective 10 mins in him.

We need to take all the emotion out of it. From a stationary position Sneyd roles. If he doesn't role McGuire doesn't get injured. Intent or not is irrelivent. Everone in the game including Sneyd know the potential out come of the motion, for whatever reason Sneyd chose to do it. At the point he causes injury he is guilty. Nice guy or thug he is guilty.

Leeds in uproar, is this just cos Bailey left them?

After watching the tackle over and over again I really dont think there is any intent from Snyed to do any harm to McGuire. If you slow the tackle right down Mcguire's foot stays in the same position throughout the tackle, if he was trying to break his anckle he would of twisted his foot round. However intent or not the resulting tackle has caused an injury (to what degree we don't yet know) and will result in a ban. How long that ban will be we will soon find out. Craig Murdoc tweeted after he watched it again that he thought that it was more clumsey than anything and maybe a one match ban with a EGP to save him, I just hope he's on the panel!!

People comparing it to the ban for the guy in Championship 1 Is just daft. That guy sat there and blatantly applied pressure to the leg in a deliberate manner. This was just holding down gone wrong IMO but is worthy of a ban