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| As others have mentioned, Briscoe is coming to fullback from a position where minimal passing is required.
Compare that with Sam Tomkins who moved there from the halves with a great passing game and the difference is unreal.
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| Quote ="heard1989"First off, i'd like to congratulate widnes on there performance tonight, they wanted it more then us.
Secondly, I think tom is a great player, yes he dropped lots of balls tonight but owel it happens, and regarding his passing, he's a winger they don't need to pass just finish.
Lastly, there's no point singling out players for tonight. The entire team played awful and all need to take a look at themselves. It's a team sport.'"
Thankyou i think we will improve slowly.
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| Lynch and Watts were our best two forwards tonight. Keeping O'Meley for another year is not the way forward.
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| imo if you put Briscoe in a team with good players around him , with a good 6 n 7 actualy puting him into gaps he would be world class
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| Quote ="Awesome Aquinas"Lynch and Watts were our best two forwards tonight. Keeping O'Meley for another year is not the way forward.'"
Along with Pitts, who had another good game for us. Strong in the tackle and good hands, impressed with this signing.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Along with Pitts, who had another good game for us. Strong in the tackle and good hands, impressed with this signing.'"
Aye. Pitts' line speed was good. He managed to get a couple of decent shots in.
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| Correct me if I'm wrong, I am reading the rumours thread and not the match thread?
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| Quote ="Awesome Aquinas"Lynch and Watts were our best two forwards tonight. Keeping O'Meley for another year is not the way forward.'"
Yes O'Meley had been mentioned as a possible target for us (and he may still be for all I know), but he didn't enhance his reputation against our very lightweight pack last night, wasn't terrible, but I was expecting him to really cut through us.
Lynch on the other hand is the perfect professional, just gets on with his game drives it in whether the rest are playing well or badly.
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| Stick to rumours or the thread goes.
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| If there is any positive news that the club are holding back (Chase or holdsworth), then early this week would be good time to announce it.
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| Quote ="Kosh"When he takes against a player there's no reasoning with him.'"
Give it a rest.. Just because someone has an opinion which doesn't match yours.
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| What happened to the chase deal been done as he got his visa??
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| Rumour has it, Jordan Turner is impersonating a super league player
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| Quote ="heard1989"What happened to the chase deal been done as he got his visa??'"
If chase has got it club won't announce anything until Sept with the others.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"If chase has got it club won't announce anything until Sept with the others.'"
Cheers Bud..
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"What I'm saying is Tom is a very good winger but nowhere near world class like some make out . He still has a lot to work on in his game and he has quite a few flaws that need sorting . His passing , reading of the game at times and decision making are just a few .'"
Martin offiah was woeful at passing, was he average?
Tom Briscoe is being played out of position, hence his reading of the game will not be like that of Billy Slater.
Singling any player out is unjust after last night. Manu, O'Meley, Turner, Crooks, Lineham were all as guilty as Briscoe form multiple knock ons. Seymour offered nothing in attack and our forwards looked weak.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Martin offiah was woeful at passing, was he average?
Tom Briscoe is being played out of position, hence his reading of the game will not be like that of Billy Slater.
Singling any player out is unjust after last night. Manu, O'Meley, Turner, Crooks, Lineham were all as guilty as Briscoe form multiple knock ons. Seymour offered nothing in attack and our forwards looked weak.'"
Don't you think the games changed a little bit now and moved on to how it use to be . If your talking about wingers from offiah era what about the role of full back and hookers , and how they've changed .
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| Quote ="FC-Steward"Don't you think the games changed a little bit now and moved on to how it use to be . If your talking about wingers from offiah era what about the role of full back and hookers , and how they've changed .'"
From a wingers point of view the game hasn't changed that much. If anything, Offiah was one of the first breed of wingers who came infield to help out the forwards by running the ball from dummy half.
Doesn't get round the fact that offiah was poor at passing. Of course, for much of his career he had no reason to pass as his halves had done their job by creating the space for him to utilise his pace.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"From a wingers point of view the game hasn't changed that much. If anything, Offiah was one of the first breed of wingers who came infield to help out the forwards by running the ball from dummy half.
Doesn't get round the fact that offiah was poor at passing. Of course, for much of his career he had no reason to pass as his halves had done their job by creating the space for him to utilise his pace.'"
The issue with Briscoe last night wasnt his passing - it was his catching.....
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| Heard a rumour that a few people on here need to get a grip , anyone else heard that ?
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| If ya can't get over yesterday, at least put it in the correct thread. Fanx
Rumours anyone?!?!
Kyle Amor
Chase
Holdsworth
Crookes
Whitehead
New full back
New Nrl Prop
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| Quote ="BIGARR"If ya can't get over yesterday, at least put it in the correct thread. Fanx
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| well said bigarr
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor":2al99gy0From a wingers point of view the game hasn't changed that much. If anything, Offiah was one of the first breed of wingers who came infield to help out the forwards by running the ball from dummy half.
Doesn't get round the fact that offiah was poor at passing. Of course, for much of his career he had no reason to pass as his halves had done their job by creating the space for him to utilise his pace.'" Stan Cowan
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| Quote ="oud3pstander"Think your new to the game then ask Devo,Maclin,Nobby Oliver,Stocks and Sully [RIP what they did
Before that[ Flat foot Stan Cowan'"
30 plus years to the game. But you have backed up my theory that wing play has not really altered where other facets of the game have.
Thanks.
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