Today's the first time our 'first team' has been blown away. The only other 2 games we've been blown away were Wigan and Huddersfield, where we had most of our team missing.

We've challenged in every other game this season, we're 2 points away from 4th after throwing away 5 points in the previous 3 games.

Maybe I am overacting (I normally do!) but this season feels like it is heading the same way the last 4 seasons have, just sick of it now

This is what I'm walking about. It needs to be addressed.

Blown away/throwing away results are the same thing, game lost.

I'm really not interested in your opinion.

That's not challenging though is it, they wouldn't have leads to throw away if they weren't challenging the other teams.

The Manu sin bin killed us. Two (possibly three) trys in the space of ten minutes made it too big an ask.

The wheels have well and truly fallen off.
The coaching staff and players have got a big job on their hands to turn things around.

Not when you're disputing a comment that we don't 'challenge teams' anymore.

Fair comment.

Thats what i call a response.

It can be difficult turning things around when the wheels have fallen off.

Absolutely - I'm looking forward to seeing/finding out what that was about.

Why did you comment on it then ? Or send me a condescending PM ?

Looking forward to seeing what we get next week. Warrington and Wigan are the class of the comp at the moment and I didn't expect to get anything there. Going out on a whimper was disappointing though. We need to win next week to get the season back on track.

On the plus side for a Red I thought Wilkin was a good summariser !

Game was already moving away from us to be honest.

All of Ogre and Mrs Ogre's predictions would appear to be coming true.

It had to be a major factor nonetheless.

The thing that annoys me is even after the last four games we are still only two points off the top four. We could have been right up there with Warrington if we could just play the full 80 minutes.

Could be worse. At least we can afford new wheels and to put them back on, rather than having to sell the ones we have on eBay.

I dont see why people are surprised that were not good enough , Peter Gentle knows why and thats why players are getting shown the door I think deep down he knows we will not do anything more than just make the play offs and thats what I think tbh .the players (not all but most) are nowere near good enough to be challenging for trophys and it looks like the club are trying to rectify this for next year and onwards .

I don't think people are surprised we're not good enough to beat Wire away.

You talk a load of sh*t mate.

Down to 7th now, Leeds have gone above us today

Peter Gentle stated in the HDM only weeks ago that we are targeting a top 4 finish.....