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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I agree he should have just rolled away, however, i understand why he reacted the way he did. If it were you or me in Radders shoes mate we'd have been windmilling like mad men!!
I'd hope he gets sos as he missed 70 mins of the game and cost us 4th place. Thats a hell of a punishment anyway.
Ref got it wrong for me though.'"
Possibly the fairest outcome would be for the RFL to top up his 70 minutes to a full 80 minutes, thus making it in effect a one match ban. Just start the game on saturday with 12 men and bring Radders on after 10 minutes. Jobs a good en.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Possibly the fairest outcome would be for the RFL to top up his 70 minutes to a full 80 minutes, thus making it in effect a one match ban. Just start the game on saturday with 12 men and bring Radders on after 10 minutes. Jobs a good en.'"
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| Quote ="EXPRO"The half pint of blood running down his face proves he did connect , unfortunately lee continued the tirade, telling him to "come and dance" over and over so put it altogether I think he pretty much talked himself into it im afraid, also his continued agression on his way off the pitch will not help his cause....'"
I am sure Lee will be regretting his actions which were punishable one way or another however I dont believe he has every been sent off for violent conduct in his 10+ years at top flight (could be wrong!) which suggests the level of provacation probably deserved to be punished as well.
Baileys over reaction after the flare up should be considered along with his cheap shots to the head however any ban Bailey gets would not benefit Hull in the slightest would it?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am sure Lee will be regretting his actions which were punishable one way or another however I dont believe he has every been sent off for violent conduct in his 10+ years at top flight (could be wrong!) which suggests the level of provacation probably deserved to be punished as well.
Baileys over reaction after the flare up should be considered along with his cheap shots to the head however any ban Bailey gets would not benefit Hull in the slightest would it?'"
cant disagree with any of that pal, and yes he is pretty busted up over what happened but he knows the deal and will come back stronger for it.. shame for the lad because he is under no illusion that he let everyone down and would probably say sorry to each one of us personally if he could...
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I am sure Lee will be regretting his actions which were punishable one way or another however I dont believe he has every been sent off for violent conduct in his 10+ years at top flight (could be wrong!) '"
First ever red card i believe and his only other card was a yellow in 2003
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| Quote ="Hutchie"First ever red card i believe and his only other card was a yellow in 2003'"
But he plays for FC so i expect a 3 game ban.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"But he plays for FC so i expect a 3 game ban.'"
does seem that way doesnt it, given the way he carried on after the issue and the claret involved i do fear the worst im afraid
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| Quote ="Hutchie"First ever red card i believe and his only other card was a yellow in 2003'"
Nah, i remember him getting sent off playing for Mysons against Minehead at the Circle an an under 16s cup final. He has form for it.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Nah, i remember him getting sent off playing for Mysons against Minehead at the Circle an an under 16s cup final. He has form for it.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Just watched the incident for the 1st time since seeing it live last night. I think Radford was totally justified in his response. Sadly it cost us the game ultimately but it was never a red card. Both men should have been in the bin for 10. Ref lost the plot. Bailey is just a dirty thug.'"
Totally justified? Not a chance. Bailey does it all the time, its why all genuine RL fans think he is a waste of skin (Leeds fans are generally thick so their opinion doesn't count). Radford knows what sort of crap Bailey gets upto and should know better than to get involved. Even if he does feel the need to get involved he should have dragged him to his feet before lamping him then at least I would agree it was only worth a sinbin. Having seen the incident again on TV Bailey should have walked for the attempted head butt on Long and if he doesn't get a ban on Tuesday I wont be surprised but it will be yet more evidence of the RFLs complete lack of balls in dishing out punishments to Leeds players.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Even if he does feel the need to get involved he should have dragged him to his feet before lamping him then at least I would agree it was only worth a sinbin.'"
Maybe he could have got a referee and promoter involved as well ? Built a proper ring ? Called to the bench for gloves ? Not sure it works like that in the heat of a SL battle tbh.
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| Am I the only one who naively thinks he might get away with sending off sufficient given his previous good record?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Am I the only one who naively thinks he might get away with sending off sufficient given his previous good record?'"
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| First time i had chance to re-watch it
Ref clearly blew before the first punch and Bailey def wants banning for his attempted butt
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Ref clearly blew before the first punch and Bailey def wants banning for his attempted butt'"
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| Do you do a fan voting system at the KC for man of the match? Like via text or something?
If so, can you please tell me how to vote so that every time you have a match, regardless of whether he's playing or not, I can vote for Radford as a thanks for ting that w@nker Bailey?
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| Radford cost us the match no doubt about it. Someone as experienced as him show know better and have more self-control.
In effect he has almost served a one match ban already and maybe that and his good record will count in his favour but I expect him to get at least one match.
The only good thing is he gave that cowardly thug Bailey a good hiding before he was sent off.
I he doesn't cop a ban too I will be very disappointed.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"
The only good thing is he gave that cowardly thug Bailey a good hiding before he was sent off.
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You must have had a very sheltered upbringing if you think landing a couple of punches on a guy holding a ball in his hands, and attempting to get to his feet constitutes a good hiding.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Maybe he could have got a referee and promoter involved as well ? Built a proper ring ? Called to the bench for gloves ? Not sure it works like that in the heat of a SL battle tbh.'"
Maybe not but how anyone can argue its not a red card in the circumstances is beyond me.
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| Quote ="BillyRhino"icon_lol.gif
You must have had a very sheltered upbringing if you think landing a couple of punches on a guy holding a ball in his hands, and attempting to get to his feet constitutes a good hiding.'"
I suspect I have had a sheltered upbringing compared to the likes of Ryan Bailey.
Bailey started it and got more than he bargained for.
How did he end up in the blood bin?
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| In 99% of such incidents the referee would either - put one or both players on report -or - bin one or both players for 10 minutes.
But hey this was Ian Smith. I remember a few years back in a cup tie at Headingley, Preccie was taken out head high as he crossed the Leeds line. Jason Smith appealed for a penalty try to which Mr Ian Smith replied (and I heard this clearly) 'I can't give a try - he didn't ground the ball'.
Apparently Ryan Bailey has been up before the Disciplinary Panel at Red Hall 10 times in the past 12 months and has suffered a total of one fine of £300. The conclusion has to be that either he or his club has friends in high places or he is serial victim of mistaken identity.
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| Quote ="LS24 Rhino"Like Headingley & CC game at KC you mean ?
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no i think he was thinking of challenge cup finals
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Maybe not but how anyone can argue its not a red card in the circumstances is beyond me.'"
So punching is a red card now then, that rule must have been brought in on Saturday but then stopped before the Saints match when Wellens threw one.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"So punching is a red card now then, that rule must have been brought in on Saturday but then stopped before the Saints match when Wellens threw one.'"
Actually yes punching is a red card. If they had been toe to toe I could see your point but Bailey was basically on all fours with no way of protecting himself while Radford threw several punches at him. I wish people would stop comparing it to other incidents that are fights rather than someone taking a pasting who isn't even looking. The Wellens one was slightly different but I agree it should have been at least a sinbin. Radford knows what he did was stupid which is why he has apologised to his team mates.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Actually yes punching is a red card. If they had been toe to toe I could see your point but Bailey was basically on all fours with no way of protecting himself while Radford threw several punches at him. I wish people would stop comparing it to other incidents that are fights rather than someone taking a pasting who isn't even looking. The Wellens one was slightly different but I agree it should have been at least a sinbin. Radford knows what he did was stupid which is why he has apologised to his team mates.'"
So does it say in the rule 'punching a defencless person is a red card' ?
If so what about when players are being held back and another player keeps throwing?
It was a sin bin, unless the refs have had new instructions all of a sudden or I have missed all these red cards this season?
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