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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I see everyones frustration with this, I used it myself a couple of times, its the old case of when you have got used to something no one likes it when its withdrawn. The fact is if you look at how many other football and Rugby teams do it you can see why it has happened and i guess our new owner has taken the new broom attitude and thought he would start as he means to go on. We are now on par with most other sports clubs. Its not as if we are the only club that won't allow a voucher exchange, in fact on the contrary, up to last season we were one of the few who had the sceme in operation. Not defending the decision, just saying that I feel that in the end it was going to happen soon anyway! Of course if we had kept Kath it might still be in operation, perhaps we were a bit hasty there!
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We're the only club that doesn't allow drinking in the stands...
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"We're the only club that doesn't allow drinking in the stands...
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Hardly abuse. They could give their ticket away and the net effect to the club is the same. IMO, you've paid for a seat at 13 home games and it doesn't really matter if you took 12 mates to 1 match or went to all 13 yourself. The loss in revenue to the club must be negligible'"
Exactly. It was a good scheme that some used and others didn't. Not sure about the point that "it's fine because no one else does it" - surely we should be looking at ways to offer different and better incentives than other clubs not just falling into line with them.
It wont alter the fact that I will buy a pass for me and my lad. I am happy with the prices on offer but removing the voucher exchange was the wrong thing to do IMO.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Exactly. It was a good scheme that some used and others didn't. Not sure about the point that "it's fine because no one else does it" - surely we should be looking at ways to offer different and better incentives than other clubs not just falling into line with them.
It wont alter the fact that I will buy a pass for me and my lad. I am happy with the prices on offer but removing the voucher exchange was the wrong thing to do IMO.'"
Also had the added benefit that I could take along my lad's mate who's dad is a rovers fan when we had a spare voucher
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Come back Kath, all is forgiven.
We would have been much better off paying an extra £20 inflation increase, and keeping our voucher scheme.
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Not my point at all.... My point was, why discount the walk up level to such a point were it isn't so cost effective to buy a pass?? There are no longer any 'perks' as such to buy a season pass... They've even out-price the reserved passholders this year... I'm afraid that in ticket pricing, this is an area that the previous board got right and Pearson has failed at the first attempt IMO.
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| Quote ="Standee"good, long may it continue'"
Doesn't bother me at home because the beer at KC is cr@p but it's nice to have the option when bottled beer etc....
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| Quote ="Standee"how do you work that out, just because of the voucher scheme? (which I will ask again, who else does it in SL?)'"
No voucher scheme, No 4th round cup ticket, not even a free cap.... Am i getting less for my money?? Yes i am...
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"No voucher scheme, No 4th round cup ticket, not even a free cap.... Am i getting less for my money?? Yes i am...
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cup ticket was RFL
did you get a free cap last year, no
do you get guaranteed seat, yes
do you get preferential ticketing for semi/finals, yes
if you don't like it, don't buy one.
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| Quote ="Standee"cup ticket was RFL
did you get a free cap last year, no
do you get guaranteed seat, yes
do you get preferential ticketing for semi/finals, yes
if you don't like it, don't buy one.'"
You buying one seeing we got all the other things and the voucher scheme under the old board and all for a £5 more.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"You buying one seeing we got all the other things and the voucher scheme under the old board and all for a £5 more.'"
conveniently forgetting Agar, Dowes, Washbrook et al, and the signings of Lynch, O'Caroll and Gentle.....
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| Quote ="Standee"conveniently forgetting Agar, Dowes, Washbrook et al, and the signings of Lynch, O'Caroll and Gentle.....'"
And Smith,Maher,Grimaldi,Barnett,T.SMith,Best,Logan,Head and Sharp...took us to our only grand final....so dont give us that and Dowes was signed by Bomber and So was Washy.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And Smith,Maher,Grimaldi,Barnett,T.SMith,Best,Logan,Head and Sharp...took us to our only grand final....so dont give us that and Dowes was signed by Bomber and So was Washy.'"
wtf are you on about now???
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| Quote ="Standee"wtf are you on about now???'"
Yo stated about the bad players and coach under the old board...i was pointing out who else they signed and that 2 players you mentioned was signed by our DOR in his spell as head coach here.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"How can it be abused?? I would say it's the other way round and it helps!!'"
I said abused by some, not everybody.
Trust me, I know of people completely abusing the voucher exchange scheme.
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| Quote ="Standee"cup ticket was RFL
=#0000FFIt was, but it was still part of my pass and worked into the price i'm sure. One more game i have to pay for.
did you get a free cap last year, no
=#0000FFI never ever claimed a free cap but it was included in the price, it's not now.
do you get guaranteed seat, yes
=#0000FFLast year, yes. Next year, no
do you get preferential ticketing for semi/finals, yes
=#0000FFNice one, still never a problem getting them. It should be cheaper for passholders IMO.
if you don't like it, don't buy one.
=#0000FFNever said i'm not getting one, i'll pay whatever price home and away to follow my team.
My point was, you argued that my pass IS NOT worth less than previous years and it is!!
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All i'm saying is that there aren't the incentives to get a pass any more. It's becoming better to be a 'walk up customer'.
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| Quote ="GJJ 79"I said abused by some, not everybody.
Trust me, I know of people completely abusing the voucher exchange scheme.'"
I'm sure you do but i'd like to know HOW???? 13 tickets paid for, 13 tickets used!! How can it be any different??
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"All i'm saying is that there aren't the incentives to get a pass any more. It's becoming better to be a 'walk up customer'.'"
why isn't your seat guaranteed, are you going East Unreserved (your choice), there was no free cap last year as far as I know, why should passholders get cheaper tickets, some people can't afford a one off lump payment, you'll still get a few free games.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"But your passholders are your core and more committed supporters.!!'"
Why???????
If we take your argument you only buy a pass because it's cheaper.
Doesn't sound like someone who's hardcore and commited.
Personally I would say someone who didn't buy a pass and went to everygame was more commited.
I definately would say that someone who is complaining because he can't sell a discounted voucher to someone because he didn't go, is definately neither hardcore or commited
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| Quote ="Willa"Why???????
If we take your argument you only buy a pass because it's cheaper.
Doesn't sound like someone who's hardcore and commited.
Personally I would say someone who didn't buy a pass and went to everygame was more commited.
I definately would say that someone who is complaining because he can't sell a discounted voucher to someone because he didn't go, is definately neither hardcore or commited'"
people like myself and Kosh drive 300+ miles to attend games, anyone suggesting we're less comitted because we don't buy a season pass is, frankly, an ar$e.
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| Quote ="Standee"why isn't your seat guaranteed, are you going East Unreserved (your choice), there was no free cap last year as far as I know, why should passholders get cheaper tickets, some people can't afford a one off lump payment, you'll still get a few free games.'"
Yes i'm going unreserved as i don't feel reserved offers ANY value for money at that price difference. I see your point but on the other hand those that do pay one lump sum should be rewarded otherwise, why bother?? More money then goes into the club bank account and generates more interest.
We don't yet know how much the walk up prices are but as we stand;
East Unreserved is £15 per game
Reserved is £17.31 per game
We also don't know yet if the direct debit scheme is still going to cost £10.
Coupled with the fact i have to remember/carry around my pass and hold the risk of losing it (The Brother, last season IIRC) if i'm not saving a great deal i don't need to do it.
That's the point i'm making. I'll NEVER not go but, and as Pearson said himself, the pass has to represent good value. For me it, as we stand, doesn't!!
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"Yes i'm going unreserved as i don't feel reserved offers ANY value for money at that price difference. I see your point but on the other hand those that do pay one lump sum should be rewarded otherwise, why bother?? More money then goes into the club bank account and generates more interest.
We don't yet know how much the walk up prices are but as we stand;
East Unreserved is £15 per game
Reserved is £17.31 per game
We also don't know yet if the direct debit scheme is still going to cost £10.
Coupled with the fact i have to remember/carry around my pass and hold the risk of losing it (The Brother, last season IIRC) if i'm not saving a great deal i don't need to do it.
That's the point i'm making. I'll NEVER not go but, and as Pearson said himself, the pass has to represent good value. For me it, as we stand, doesn't!!'"
you do know how low bank interest rates are, don't you?
the reserved seats have a better position than the unreserved
the Direct Debit scheme costs money to administer, 10% of the value is cheap, and you're getting it for less than that
You honestly think it will be less than £20 walk up?
and as for the comment about remembering your pass, that is just laughable.
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| Quote ="Standee"people like myself and Kosh drive 300+ miles to attend games, anyone suggesting we're less comitted because we don't buy a season pass is, frankly, an ar$e.'"
don't understand why you quoted me, unless you agree with me.
Hope your not calling me an ar$e
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| You have also got to factor in the vat increase from 17.5% to 20% so in effect the pass prices have come down an additional fiver no a huge amount but the club have reduced prices more than the face value of the pass
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"I'm sure you do but i'd like to know HOW???? 13 tickets paid for, 13 tickets used!! How can it be any different??'"
See PM
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| Quote ="Willa"don't understand why you quoted me, unless you agree with me.
Hope your not calling me an ar$e
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I was agreeing with you, people's dedication to FC isn't measured by their ability to buy a season pass, in fact, buying a season pass, in some cases, leads to apathetic supporters that turn up "because I've paid for it", which takes more effort, me arranging my week around getting out of London by 2pm on a Friday (and having 6am breakfast meetings during the preceeding days to facilitate it), travelling 3 hours on the train, driving from Mansfield to Brough, getting taxis to meet friends or cadging a lift into town, then getting back home to Mansfield at 1am, or finishing work on Clough Road at 5, having tea at home and wandering down to the pub for a pint before walkng to the KC at 7pm?
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