That is to do with Hulls inability to slide in defence. He can either shoot out the line and put the attackers under pressure, or stand marking one man whilst watching the rest run around him.

Got to be Whiting to stay however I can see it been Horne after him getting the nod above Whiting on Friday.

I can see it being both. Think the massive clearout will consist of us not offering thackray a new contract

I agree and without question it has got to be Whiting.

I agree and without question it has got to be Whiting.

Give your head a bang.

Sadly disagree, never thought I would say this but Horne edging it at mo.

Frankly neither anywhere good enough for SL centre.

Whiting just not showing enough of the footballing ability & creativity we all think he's got. Clearly not powerful enough to play 13.

Horney offers true versatility covering several positions, defensively sound & powerful enough to survive.

Both journeymen IMO, any shirt number below 18 next season & more than a dozen appearances for either expect a similar season to this !

If both sign................................

I agree totally with that.

Very good post. I've always liked whiting but he doesn't look to me like he will ever be a 1st team regular (when everyone is fit) and players of that ilk at his age should move on to a club where they will be. Same goes for horne. If we were more ruthless with this type of player then we'd have a much better 1st choice 17. We should have a policy where any player not in our 1st choice 17 is under 23. Anyone over that age and not a 1st choice player should be released

Whiting signed for Hull as a stand off with a very good pair of hands, kicking game and rugby brain in general. Hull turned him into a centre and he played there through a very successful period for the club.

I liken Kyle Briggs at featherstone to Rich in that he is a tall talented ball handling half back who could go far in the game.

unfortunately as super league has developed I do not think that Whiting is now the centre that we need. can he play loose forward? Maybe given the chance but behind Washy for mine. Can he go back to been a stand off?

Whatever anyone may think about Whiting's credentials as a first choice centre or loose forward, I don't see how anyone with half a brain can say we should get rid of him. Even if he doesn't make the first 17 when everyone is fit, how often is everyone fit?

In the modern game, you need quality cover in case of the inevitable injuries that will be sustained over the course of a season. Whiting can step into centre, half back, or the back row and do a very good job there.

I also believe that, if we had a dominant pack, decent half backs and a proper defensive pattern, Whiting would make an excellent centre as he has done in the past.

Look Rich, we all like you, just that some of us feel a change of club might be the right thing for you

If he came to the club as a half. Why not give him a chance there now? Can't be worse than what we've got?

When we've had so many poor players this season, and such a problem with lack of effort, I can't for the life of me see why anyone would want to get rid of one of the few players who has played consistently well and has always given 100% effort.

Absolutely spot on!

No he's not, we've conceeded a lot of tries down his side and even against Salford nearly every break they made came from the side he and Richard where defending.

Well said if he's not offered a new contract it again speaks volumes about which direction our club is going. He would be top of mine, and most of our lists for players that must be retained.
We cannot keep carrying Thorman though its beyond a joke

To be fair, both sets of 3/4s have been on a hiding to nowt recently having been left exposed by our overly compressed defensive pattern.

He'll always be a great squad player sadly. Victim of his own utility and not a great deal he can do to change that now.

Since the moment Cooke left I always said play whiting at 6.

What amazes me is that everyone admits that this guy is commited every game he plays has good hands and a good rugby brain yet we should let him go.

Is this not what we are missing, the fact he is not been given the chance to show his full potential is down to the coaches not the player.

Are those advocating letting him go the same ones who backed tony over briscoe, great call their.

We need players like him who create problems for defences same as houghton, burnett, maloney, briscoe.

not the Radfords, King, Lee, Cusacks,

All should be shown the door for lack of ability.

Can't tell that to the blinkered morons, sounds too much like sense. For the record I agree Thorman hasn't been a good acquisition. But on Friday I saw Richard Horne get fended off a couple times didn't hear a peep from the crowd, soon as Thorman misses a tackle que the abuse. Think there was a grubber from Berrigan on the 6th tackle in the 2nd half and Thorman knocked on trying to make a difficult pick up, then you hear "you're f***ing s**t".
And as for the ironic cheers don't agree with it at all and tbh all you fair weather muppets should stay away and come back when the team are winning 50-0 every week.Don't get me wrong watching Hull at the moment is like pulling teeth. But it isn't because of one man playing poorly.

Point I was trying to make was we should only retain one of Whiting or Horne as utility players.

Do agree Whiting looked like he was the real deal, do we blame our coaching staff or him for not 'training on'. He has had two years ruined by injuries.

If he wasn't injured Friday & didn't make the 17 I suggest that shows the current coaching set up have made their minds up.

FWIW I reckon Kear or McRae would snap him up rather quicker than our other non passing utility player !

Would love to see Rich given a run at 6 or 13 but can't see it now.