maybe so, guess time will tell.

To be fair, I've been surprised how shiite we've been

I'm amazed at the dedication of Hull FC staff still posting propaganda on here at 1/4 to 10

I would be interested to know when he made them comments as I'm assuming it was before the injury curse struck and visa problems started.

Its a shame said dedication isn't emulated by some of our fans.

I've been a dedicated fan for over 30 years mate but I know that agar isn't up to the job and needs to go for the club to move forward. All the positivity in the world won't turn him into a top class coach

You think those are the only reasons for us failing so badly this season?

Do you think Agar is?

Of course he does, the FC propaganda machine told him

So you base your knowledge on 30 years "watching" the game?

No. But I do think that he's a contributing factor.

As do i, just depends to what degree we all think he is to blame.

I've just re-read Agar's interview in the HDM preview of the season.

It's all pretty uninspiring cliche-by-numbers stuff:

"... a lot of commitment in training... I'm optimistic and the enthusiasm levels are high... confident we have a great group of players..." etc etc

He also says, notably, "I'd like us to play some football and play with a bit of imagination both with ball out of hand and from the boot... We are a club that has a significant standing in the game and our performances and league finish should reflect that."

he must be joking surely!

Yeah, and playing at school and amateur level for 20 years. Does that allow me an opinion?

No obviously not. You're not allowed an opinion as you've only been a rugby fan for 30 years and only played at Amateur level for 20 years so you're obviously not qualified, any fool can see that.



Or is it because you're still questioning his beloved Agar

Thats the most sickening thing for me, he made big noises about the quality and attitude of the squad at the start of the season, but when its all gone pear shaped instead of holding his hand up and saying he has made mistakes, he seems willing to hide behind this ridiculous excuse that it isnt his team, as if we never had any expectations to perform this season.

If we improve next season and play a more attractive style of rugby, how much of it will be down to the leadership and qualities of the players brought in or actually down to Agar coaching his own team?

I know which 1 I think it'll be but it adds further fuel to the Agar debate.

If you think that is good enough to think your opinion is more value than most then yes, although you still have no experience of professional sport.

Silly.

So if we play well next season it will be the players not agar? Jeez, the bloke doesn't stand a chance.
With that theory why is it not the players fault this season when were shiit?

Because many of the players in our squad have achieved things in the past, Agar has achieved nothing. On top of this he comes across as not being very bright and completely uninspiring, ask yourself if he seems the kind of guy you'd want as your boss?

Ive never seen him work so can't form an opinion on what he's like to work for, as for players that have achieved something, how many have been fit all year? The ones that reached the GF in 06 that was mainly down to Agar as peter sharp has said time and time again. You're saying that he hasn't won anything but how many of the top coaches did in there first full season? Huddersfield got relegated under tony smith!

Do you get away with these type of excuses at work?

No he hasn't.

People have misquoted him on here time and time again, though.

Agar was not responsible for Hull reaching the Grand Final in 2006.