Not yet.

Yes but you always go from one extreme to another so no surprise there!

We're barely top 8 let alone top 4!!

Amazed that we've gone to pieces in the last 20 minutes yet again. gentle needs to get the fitness, concentration and his rotation sorted. Playing both of your 2nd rowers for the full 80 every week is ridiculous.

leeds now ahead of us, rovers and bradford only 1 point behind

Good job that finishing in the top 8 is no longer a measure of success as we'll likely be 9th

Why was they no way? if the players turned up and played with some passion and really tried, stopped giving away daft penalties, and learnt how to not get sucked in every time the bloody ball got shifted wide we could have won.

We are way too light weight in the squad, i'm worried for the rest of the season, the boardroom and management will be panicking getting other players in with all our "better" players leaving to a club that may actually win something.

If people think things are going to get better any time soon they are deluded, the transition period starts next season, it's how we build and recruit after most of our squad are out the door.

Barely any possession second half again it seems. Similar at Wakefield. Too much to do in defence and a sin binning to boot.

Pathetic. You don't do yourself any favours.

What has happened to our ability to challenge? I'm usually an optimistic fan, but our current form is not good at all.

Too many penalties once again by the sounds of it.

Why was they no way? if the players turned up and played with some passion and really tried, stopped giving away daft penalties, and learnt how to not get sucked in every time the bloody ball got shifted wide we could have won.

We are way too light weight in the squad, i'm worried for the rest of the season, the boardroom and management will be panicking getting other players in with all our "better" players leaving to a club that may actually win something.

If people think things are going to get better any time soon they are deluded, the transition period starts next season, it's how we build and recruit after most of our squad are out the door.

Today's the first time our 'first team' has been blown away. The only other 2 games we've been blown away were Wigan and Huddersfield, where we had most of our team missing.

We've challenged in every other game this season, we're 2 points away from 4th after throwing away 5 points in the previous 3 games.

Maybe I am overacting (I normally do!) but this season feels like it is heading the same way the last 4 seasons have, just sick of it now

This is what I'm walking about. It needs to be addressed.

Blown away/throwing away results are the same thing, game lost.

I'm really not interested in your opinion.

That's not challenging though is it, they wouldn't have leads to throw away if they weren't challenging the other teams.

The Manu sin bin killed us. Two (possibly three) trys in the space of ten minutes made it too big an ask.

The wheels have well and truly fallen off.
The coaching staff and players have got a big job on their hands to turn things around.

Not when you're disputing a comment that we don't 'challenge teams' anymore.

Fair comment.

Thats what i call a response.

It can be difficult turning things around when the wheels have fallen off.

Absolutely - I'm looking forward to seeing/finding out what that was about.

Why did you comment on it then ? Or send me a condescending PM ?

Looking forward to seeing what we get next week. Warrington and Wigan are the class of the comp at the moment and I didn't expect to get anything there. Going out on a whimper was disappointing though. We need to win next week to get the season back on track.

On the plus side for a Red I thought Wilkin was a good summariser !