Been the best team by a country mile this season.
Whether they can convert it into silverware other than the LLS is another matter.

Greg rocks & diamonds Eden.

505 points in 14 games for Cas. Some going.

We should have appointed powell as England coach instead of bennett

pity they couldn't beat 12 man hull.

Pity Cas don't have a very rich sugar daddy buying a team...mind you, they do have an academy which tops their table. Maybe try raiding Cas for players, as you normally do.

Need to calm down, Shenton apart aren't all your best players signed from other teams, so don't really get your point.

Also I don't think we are in the position to Mick Cas despite our win.

Find that hard to believe about no misses for Houghton.

What constitutes a miss?

Great effort to stop Makinson but he didn't so does that not count as a miss? Harsh but still a failed tackle attempt.

That's a good point and not sure on the answer,68 tackles is still an unbelievable effort though

Absolutely and not trying to criticize.

Often wondered how these things are calculated.

Both for tackles and missed tackles.

For example. The third person into a tackle that in effect is already complete. Do they get a notch on the tackle count for that?

Should not tackles resulting in penalties also be included in the stats? The picture of Houghton's tackle in HDM today presumably resulted in a penalty as he appears to be holding his opponent's head in both hands.

Bad day at the office for you lot.

Caught Saints with a new coach who just told them to play. You were a bit limp it has to be said but you were unlucky to catch Saints on that particular day - they won't play better this year - you might.

Your strip was staggeringly awful by the way though I don't think it affected the result

I didn't think it was as good as that!!

Think he will end up at another club.

Dont see any diamonds in Griffin at all;
Very disappointed in all aspects of his game
Radford made a big mistake signing him

Sorry but disagree . He was one of the players who ran hard and straight at the weekend. Think he will turn out to be a good signing for us

Only just got around to watching the match, ouch!

mental fortitude and keeping your sh it together seems to be massive peaks and troughs this season. something that was stated as to be adressed a few seasons ago, Radford has to take complete responsibility for that.

if this team can come back from a big deficit and fight off Cas with 12 men then I really don't understand why we have days like this and other games were we lose the plot and fall off a cliff, It's night and day like the players just switch off or turn into a shadow of themselves.

All we can hope is to look at what went wrong, address why players are doing X instead of Y and get them to understand and re-inforce that x doesn't work, particularly when you're chasing a game.
I do wonder about in game communication though during times of duress.

As per leeds and salford, need to put a line under it and start doing the things that we do best that puts pressure on the opposition and ffs stop playing in panic mode!

We have a soft underbelly that has appeared since the CC win.

This could be the easiest ever GF to win and we have a chance for sure.

I'm not sure how to eliminate the ability to throw the towel in

Could it be the 2nd season syndrome after winning the CC

There aren't many occasions at all that an NFL team has a great season after winning the Super Bowl for the first time in a long time

Agree but don't forget in NFL the draft system puts the winners bottom of the pile in the recruitment stakes the year after

Disappointing as Saturday was, it doesn't alter the fact that we're still in a great place in the league. If we're going to have a slump I'd rather it came early in the season than late on when there isn't so much opportunity to recover. Lets just hope the boys can rediscover their real form this weekend.

I would say it's clearly a 'mentality' issue nothing more.

They need a catalyst - who and what will provide it ?

I'm suprised the club haven't asked you.

Or even you!!

Rod Munch

I wouldn't take the paycut.