Defence is a shambles and has been since Radfud took over. Winning mentality has never been there. Radfud again

For the Love of Airlie Bird please do something Adam

Worst attack in SL - actually we don't have an attack.

Defence also close to worst, was tonight. Radders now anxious about Wakey at home - really !!!! a club close to bust, again - remember last year where they turned us over ??

Laughing was disappointing, clearly matters more to us than them, oh & Radders out !!

3RD best attack in the league actually

Just returned from my first away trip of the season. Total embarrassment would sum it up sufficiently well.

Yeah, I bet they'de love to leave Cas to come to Hull.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the incident at half time when Houghton kept the lads on the pitch for a while and gave them a talking too before they went off to the dressing room.

bbc.in/1XggCze Radford's interview..

bbc.in/1XggCze Radford's interview..

Stop bitching you've got at least 4 points

Radford apologised to his club's fans following what he described as a capitulation by his players, who asked the coaching staff to leave them to themselves immediately after the game.

"Words don't put it into words if I'm being honest," Radford said in the post-match press conference. "We simply capitulated and it's my responsibility as a coach.

"I can only apologise to our supporters who came all this way and sang all the way through. It's also my job to try fix it up and that's what I'll try to do.

"As a rugby player you're told to compete and that stopped being a competition after 20 minutes.

"It's the most difficult defeat to take for sure (during his tenure). To have no fightback was embarrassing and the staff have just been kicked out of the changing room by the players.

"I 've no idea why they asked us to leave, they just asked us to - it's never happened in my career before."

The players asking them to leave the dressing room is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard. And Radford sounded broken, frankly.

I'm loath to suggest this means players have doubts as three weeks ago we were 'the Widnes' of the competition. But something is not right already. Worried. Should Pearson act?

cert strange,

When your staff/charges, even you're own children cannot openly say what they need to say to you or in your presence then ypu have a fairly serious problem.
I imagine it was about some of the players wanting to berate each other for the performance and hopefully if they had any respect for the club/fans vow that that never happens again.
Less likely is a revolution against Radford but not being able to say all those things whatever it is without Radford there is a concern.
Can it be enough to change the attitude of the players, short term maybe, long term I'm doubtful.
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I've banged on about the mental aspect of sport/rugby but time and again get scoffed at. This game and indeed the last two to a lesser extent show how important the development of people (players) to cope with situations/use strategies to overcome and maintain your level of performance are massively important and.continue to be ignored/underestimated.

Seen more determined defence from student teams full of ringers on a Wednesday afternoon. Shocking.

Well given the conflicting stories from Ellis and Radford I'd expect something out of the club today. What a shambles. Feel for the fans who took 4 hours plus to get home. Horrendous evening.

Embarrassing that the coach let the players have a post match meeting. He should have been in there bollocking them.

His demeanour suggests that his heart isn't in it anymore.

Ah, for the days of a Hutchie rumour of a 2pm press conference

Not sure I've ever seen a player get just 3/10 in the Hull Daily Mail's match ratings but that's what Marc Sneyd got in today's paper.

A little generous perhaps.

I said this season was all about Sneyd. That was overstating it obviously but halves again a massive issue.

Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html

Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html

Why did the players kick Radford out the changing rooms he doesn't know seems a bit strange

Troll, troll, troll. Did you read Wilf's post!!!

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html'" He's not exactly going to come out and say 'We didn't want that toothless git in the changing rooms because we've lost confidence in him' is he?

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Quite frankly I'm still absolutely speechless, if the game was atrocious then the journey home was horrendous! this explains a bit I guess! www.hulldailymail.co.uk/8203-Hul ... story.html'" He's not exactly going to come out and say 'We didn't want that toothless git in the changing rooms because we've lost confidence in him' is he?

Well i must have been at a different game to a hundred or so last night. I thought we were utter tripe and garbage, yet those other hundred must have watched us win, as they went running down to the front for pictures clapping back slapping and throwing their sweets at the players, what an utter joke. A performance like that deseved an empty stand for the team to turn to on the final hooter

Missed all that as we just got up turned our backs on the team and left. No applause no booing.