Even when hes spelled he never does much attacking

A 10/15 yard scoot when the opposition are on the back foot isn't good

When players like Roby Clark dwyer would break the line and be a try on the back of that

Houghton has held our attack back so much over the years the opposition know he's not a threat so can move away from acting half quicker

Moment of magic



Watch it again doesn't even step Connor just runs straight through him was a very poor effort

Nonsense

Connor won't make hardly any tackles

And running the ball back.... Majority of the time he passes it straight to the winger

Stop with these excuses doesn't do club any good

He needs to up his game against the best end of....now people are starting to see it he isn't invincible

He's got bad habits from Huddersfield they bottled it in the big matches as well and that's what Connor is doing

Even Cameron Smith missed the odd tackle. I never wrote him off.

Odd tackle

What Liam farrell
Eden
Cas winger ( can't remember his name he barely played since ) from memory all the in the last 8/9 months

And all 4 was trys that was terrible

Farrell esp was just embarrassing that is probably the main reason why he's not in the England squad

If your full back can't catch Liam farrell then what's the chances of catching latrell Mitchell or addo Carr



Oh and shaul would of stopped all of them trys 100%

And as field/bevan prove pace is what's needed

Whats Connors biggest weakness


Oh yeah.... pace! He has none

Oh so suddenly it wasnt "magic"? It was actually a Connor screw up?

=#FF0000Covid theories have no place here, thank you

Of course he would, like he did in the 2016 final, when he was done for pace by Ben Currie, what position is Currie again?

There has been plenty of times Shaul has been beaten, I remember Liam Marshall beating him a couple of times, maybe in Aus?

The facts are Connor is a bit slow, he needs to work on his decision making in defence, Hodgson should be helping him with that. Connors defemce was decent when he has played centr and halfback.

Shaul has pace, but that's it, the rest of his game isn't great, add to the fact he is always injured, if Connor was out on Saturday I still wouldn't play Shaul there, he is finished at decent SL level,.

He may have made those tackles, but would have created little with ball in hand and had Shaul played instead of Connor, im not sure we would have won a game this year.

His one game at fullback was awful, 5 errors and got beat to the ball by Welsby for the try.

I'd happily see Connor at halfback if we sign a decent fullback, that isn't Shaul.

Absolutely correct in my opinion. I watched the NRL all weekend any Haas, made 8 drives for Brisbane in the first half alone. Similar thing with Parramatta, so why we persist with players who get pushed back by a hungry opposition is baffling. The backs are fine when the opposition line is disjointed , but when they're set to defend and pin us down, the big men are needed, as they do not concede as much ground when the opposition forwards pile in mob handed. There are some glaring inconsistencies with our game plans, on Thursday I do think we had no idea of how to finish our sets near their line and for all I have criticised him previously, Sneyd would have managed that so much better for us to see the game out I think. We no longer possess the aerial threat of Mahe and Talanoa, so put the ball on the floor, which often produces a drop out or even an error from a scrambling defence.

Had Sneyd played, I don't think we would have been in a winning position our attack is so much better this year, alot less wayward passes and inside balls.

Not sure why on the last, Gale doesn't kick and Connor move out to centre, such a dangerous weapon.

Just conjecture pure and simple.

Unfortunately Shaul hasn't been a top player for a couple of years now and in fairness whilst Connor may not have the pace that Shaul once had its the other attributes to his game that far outweigh Shauls. Yes he has been a good player for us in previous seasons but I doubt Shaul would be picked up by many teams in the top 6 and that is a fair indication of things. I think the Taulapapa tackle (if you can even call it that) has probably left its mark on Jamie as I honestly don't think he has been the same player since if I'm honest.

At the end of the day if we want to be serious and competing for silverware then keeping players on sentiment its never going to work.

I agree I just think the modern day player needs to be able to adapt to a number of different positions and play at a good standard,we have seen Griff and swift move to fullback during a game and look comfortable,Mitch and wynne have looked good in the centre positions lately ,if it was true and shaul was working on the wing position during pre season well it obviously hasn't worked because he looked like a fish out of water against Castleford. I'd love to be proved wrong but I just don't think he has the skills to adapt to another position and wouldn't even be in my 17 anymore

Well Taylor definitely needs to be gone end of season cause hes hardly played last 3 years so agree with that about sentiment

Under contract, so needs a big season when he is back and start of next season to try and get a new one

The days that the likes of Shaul, Houghton and Taylor get automatic new deals should be long gone

I'm fairly confident that, bearing the financial news we've just had, Adam will be having serious conversations with BH about the need to trim our playing budget. As Dave says, the days of rewarding longevity should be behind us. They lads coming through the academy are showing their worth and I would sooner see them rewarded than someone who has been a good servant but who's course has now run.

Have you noticed also that we are not kicking to force any goal line drop outs lately

To be fair, I can count the number of play the balls we had in Wigan's 20m on one hand, so were never close enough to even try it (Gale's shocking kick excluded)

Cant see any sentimental decisions this time around either as a player or job in the backroom staff because you are a Hull boy

i have only seen Wynne at full back once, - against Wigan a couple of seasons ago
absolutely useless. dropped every bomb. fumbled the ball under no pressure, missed tackles.- - -
Don't Know why Shaul gets so much flack on here, & Taylor doesn't.
Last season both suffered long term injuries, Taylor came back like a tub of lard,& played like one.
Shaul was nowhere near his best,but came back in good nick. A great front on tackle against Rovers
& a superb ball & all tackle on a flying Leeds centre?
Connor s defence & lack of pace are a worry, but i do have faith in Hodgson.
I just hope Wynne isn't our back up fullback.
We seem to have a glut of centres atmo & i'm pretty sure Carlos was playing at full back/No6
when at Newcastle. Might be an option when Connor is injured/suspended if Mitch keeps
playing well.

I made this point in the accounts thread but it seems to of been hijacked by Hull and rovers with petty squabbles il make it again here.

We have some big earners out of contract at the end of the season, probably totalling 400-600k in cap at a guess.

We also have some players that for the wage they earn, i don't think would be a big loss and could be replaced by academy products.

If its true about Trueman hel be our obvious Reynolds replacement.

Reynolds..... Trueman
Mau..... We have Savelio, Lane and also Severs coming through.
Houghton...... Lovodua/Balmforth
Shaul...... Litten/Wynne
Bowden..... Brown/Burrell
Johnstone.... Cator/Staveley

Alot to be saved on Mau, Houghton, Shaul, Bowden and Johnstone.

Are there any Hull FC players you do think are good?

I think he likes Jamie Shaul

What gave you that idea?

I think he is Jamie Shaul.

So single handedly Houghton has held our attack back. Preposterous, we haven’t had an attack to speak of for 5 years. Radford’s 5 drives and a Sneyd kick held it back. We saw glimpses of Hodgson’s attacking style last year but definitely this year and Danny has played a full part. Why have you got such a massive downer on our collective team and and coach. I’d hate to be next to you at a game but you probably don’t attend, there used to be a lot of so called supporters like you at The Boulevard, but at least they paid to criticise. Clueless.