Give Wakey a bit of credit - the defence was excellent in the first half, and put a lot of pressure on you, which forced the mistakes. Yes, you are playing below your best, and obviously lacking a lot of confindence, but Wakey were up for it, and played one of the best first halves in terms of respecting possession and completing the tackles they've played this season.

i forget that you get 4 points for 'nearly' scoring these days



they didn't turn up til half time, which is completely unacceptable

Don't think anybody is trying to suggest otherwise. However the score line flattered us, and we have the players to be than that. Wakefield fully deserved their victory.

True, but then they gave up.... again.

Have to agree with that. Our pack is absolute total cr@p. It would be better with Crocker and Lauaki for sure.

What a weird response.

I was trying to illustrate that Hull were trying to play Rugby League in the first half at times, not that we deserved to be on the score board.

Total shambles. Who is our defensive coach? Has he been on holiday for the last month. We must be the easiest side in the SL to defend against and the easiest to make yards against

If it is Jon Sharp he should be sacked tonight.

Totally agree. Top post

agar will not be sacked he is here for a long time yet !

The Board will find that if he his here for a long time, then many fans will wait a long time to renew their passes!!!


If he stays I'm not renewing

Just seems to be the thing to do on here

crowd will be 8500 on friday, goodbye agar, sorry i cant be there to see your demise, i'll be at ascot fillin me boots

If you are coached by amateurs.

You play like amateurs.

Simple as this.

there lies the problem

I agree that it's 90% Agar and Sharps fault. You can have the best players in the world but if there's a donkey in charge they ain't going to do any good.

As a comparrision if I was put in charge of Man Utd or Chelsea I wouldn't have a clue how to coach them. I'd have great players at my disposal but the team would be poop because of my cluelessness as a coach.

Give Agar a year in charge of the Australian national team and he'd turn them to a one dimensional shambles.

Listening to Phil Gould on 'The Footy Show'

He said:

" You can always judge the personality of your coach,
the way the team,plays on the field"

Draw your own conclusions!!

great statement

wayne bennett?

Yeah.

Tough,uncomprising, determined.

The OP of this thread asks a very pertinent question. Is the coach the problem or the team?
On the face of things you would say coach, he's the man in charge and the buck stops with him, but lets think about this shall we?
If Agar walks he will be the 3rd coach to be sacked in four years, because of the performances on the park. The playing staff hasn't changed all that much over the stewardship of Kear, Sharp, and now Agar has it? We played some good rugby when Agar took over the team as interim coach before Sharp took over. Sharp practically admitted he had to change nothing when he got here, and we went on to the Grand Final.
Just blame the coach hasn't worked in the past has it? Maybe some should look at getting rid of some of the team.

Agar isnt good enough FACT, injuries excuse doesnt wash for me, the only players we have missing that would have started under Agar would be Manu and Calderwood (id start Washy at 13 but the less said about Agars choice for 13 the better).

His tactics of 5 drives and a kick (a crap 1 at that usually) just isnt good enough, ive seen games on Sky on a Thurs night and teams like Halifax and Barrow would fancy their chances against us.

Yes i understood this isnt Agars team a lot of the dross was here under Sharp but theirs still a nucleus of the 2006 grand final team Dowes, Thackray,Yeamo, Raynor, Whiting,Horney,Tony, Berro instead of Swain.

We are massively underachieveing on the pitch and it simply isnt good enough

There in lies the problem with your post. Last time I looked RL was an 80 minute game. NOT A 40 MIN GAME. You don't get points for winning a half. We were woeful in the first half. Thats when they should be motivated not when the game is lost and the opposition are already in the pub celebrating.

I was expecting a good competative game tonight. I turned up looking forward to it. From the minute we kicked off and ground out 35 yeards from our first 5 tackles and then kicked out on the full the writing was on the wall. Simply bloody awful and an insult to those of us who foolishly spent our hard earned following them again.