yeah of course you are.Its all getting very boring now though too, with the usuall moaners creating a hatefull relationship. God forbid if the mail or humberside said things the fans were saying, there would be upraw!!

Quote ="FC ANDY-"If you believe Richard Agar and Jon Sharp do not have the ability to effectively carry out their duties in their current roles within Hull FC then please sign this online petition. It will be handed over to the Hull FC board before the end of this season in the hope it will have the desired effect. The online petition will filter duplicate signatures and should hold some credibility when presented. Please pass the link on to everyone you feel might sign this. www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarout/'" No. 44 on that list is Rommel, with a comment of 'Up the Saints'. Legend. And even Sean Long has made a post at No. 48 stating his love for Agar.

Quote ="FC ANDY-"If you believe Richard Agar and Jon Sharp do not have the ability to effectively carry out their duties in their current roles within Hull FC then please sign this online petition. It will be handed over to the Hull FC board before the end of this season in the hope it will have the desired effect. The online petition will filter duplicate signatures and should hold some credibility when presented. Please pass the link on to everyone you feel might sign this. www.ipetitions.com/petition/agarout/'" No. 44 on that list is Rommel, with a comment of 'Up the Saints'. Legend. And even Sean Long has made a post at No. 48 stating his love for Agar.

someone also asked for them to let kath go too.... clueless!! carry on with the protest.. its giving me a giggle!!

the players haven't given a crap all season, barring a handful of exceptions, some of them don't even bother to clap the fans at the end.

thousands have gone to away games, we've not had a crowd below 10,000 for 3 years...and what difference has it made? the fans can't just clap the team and magically they'll start playing good rugby...we aren't just a good side having a bit of a slump (where good home support can genuinely lift a side) we're a hopeless side coached by someone out of his depth and run by idiots.

And to force change we need to show how we feel, because with no relegation (if we were in danger of going down they'd have acted weeks ago) we have no other outlet for our views.

I think that you are missing the point. If people do not act in some way, the "new fans" will quickly spend their money elsewhere. Crowds will drop. Turnover will drop. The club will revert backwards. You call yourself a fan and slag people of for not blindly moronically cheering this destruction of the club? Wow, good plan.

just sick of hearing all the moaners

) if you dont like what your seeing, dont go!

and the remaining fans will have to pick up the cost of the others not attending with even higher ticket prices. Be careful what you wish for.

Have you stepped back from the situation to consider why some people are upset and moaning, even if you arent?

A lot of it is simply people releasing their frustrations with the performances of the club which has built up over the last few years. Whether you find it funny or not i think you need to try to understand where people are coming from and why.

I am sorry but that attitude is more detrimental to the clubs longevity than any other

i know where people are coming from and why. I think alot of it is totally over excessive though.

Question, you go to a restaurant and the food is poor, do you just put up with it?

So whats the other options? Continue to go along and accept average performances? Have next season written off too by Agars poor coaching? Sit there moaning next season too when all this is happening?

We all go watch the game, i would still go if we are playing poor as i do, the bigger issue for me is why should we be. With the players we have this year and the players we have next year we should be performing better than we have. Are we going to settle for that and for the club to keep spinning the position to us in the press and talking to us like we are un-educated muppets? Im not happy with that.

And if you do put up with it (typical British approach) do you go back again for more the next week?

Rightly or wrongy if you dissagree with me or not, im happy to give agar a chance next season.

What do you base that on though, I simply don't understand, what is it that people can see in him that I am missing? He strikes me as one of the least motivational characters ever.

More because Rule has said he will be here next season. So rather than bitch at them this season i'll give him the benifit of the doubt. If things dont improve next season then im with you all! lol

I guess that brings us on to another point, what has rule done to deserve the blind faith you are putting in him?

Apparently you aren't allowed an opinion on Rule until you've been alive for more than 70 years.

Sarcasm aside, i can see what position we are in from an overall business perspective but im really interested to know where the blind faith comes from with regards to him trusting Agar for next season. Any valid points from anyone?

Im not disagreeing with you and i feel your frustrations. Im just not jumping on the hate train yet...lol. He is the CEO of our club. I support our club and am willing to give him a chance? thats about it

I think Rule and the board have faith in Agar and recognise the problems he has had this season with Visas and injuries. They are backing him in his attempts to rebuild the sqaud and seem to think he has done it well.

Im just really interested to know why/where your opinion comes from? This isnt a dig but it does feel like blind faith, which is fair enough if it is. I guess im looking for a logical reason to change my mind and get behind the lot of them if they are going to be here but ive not heard one yet. Convince me?

But what about the clueless tactics, failing to make substitutions and generally being garbage, how are they looking to fix that?

Do you really think the board are backing Agar because they have faith, or because they know our season has been pretty much over for weeks and it's just cheaper to keep him on?

But to counter that, shouldnt they have still performed better with the players we've still had? Where have the tactics been? Where has the motivation of existing players been? Surely the board and rule must see what we see in that regard?

your minds already made up mate, as mine is. Nothing will convince you, and lets face it, give it a few months and i might be on the hate train myself