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| You also need to take into account that Horne is a more versatile player than Hall.
Hall also needs to iron out various flaws in his game, from the games i caught on tv last year his defence at times was very poor and he seemed more intent on grabbing the spectacular interceptions than defending the line properly.
However i also see the need to give him game time this season as well.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I went to the Leeds game and although Hall played less minutes he looked a far better option at FB. He made 3/4 clean breaks and took some dangerous high balls.
Byrne was solid too but never looked like beating a man or breaking a tackle.
Byrne might be safer option. kinda says a lot about our side really.'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I went to the Leeds game and although Hall played less minutes he looked a far better option at FB. He made 3/4 clean breaks and took some dangerous high balls.
Byrne was solid too but never looked like beating a man or breaking a tackle.
Byrne might be safer option. kinda says a lot about our side really.'"
Byrne brings a lot more to the side than safety, such as his support play. At the end of the day i have no preference between them and each have positives and negatives. Would put my house on Agar going with Byrne though.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Buggerd if i know...i was at work..........pre-season or no pre-season..Hall is better attacking wise.....would sooner have my centre going full length than 30mtrs and getting caught.'"
As i said, ive been saying most of last season that i'd rather play Hall or Briscoe in the centre than G Horne as i think he isnt good enough in attack to play there, however he has earnt his chance and made it impossible to be dropped, fair play to him.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"No, Thorman was.'"
OK, G Horne came out of the game with huge plaudits though didnt he?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Why would Hall be in the team currently when G Horne has looked safer than him in the right centre and Byrne has been safer at FB.'"
Edited for accuracy.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"OK, G Horne came out of the game with huge plaudits though didnt he?'"
Horne played very well, I have no issue with him starting at centre, right now he deserves the spot.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Byrne brings a lot more to the side than safety, such as his support play. At the end of the day i have no preference between them and each have positives and negatives. Would put my house on Agar going with Byrne though.'"
Byrne is the safe call, Hall would add much more to the side from an attacking pov.
Happy with either but I just don't want to see Hall underused, he is the future of our club whereas Bynre isn't.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Byrne is the safe call, Hall would add much more to the side from an attacking pov.
Happy with either but I just don't want to see Hall underused, he is the future of our club whereas Bynre isn't.'"
Agreed, which opens up the debate again of whether its best to go with experience or someone for the future that isnt ready yet?
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Agreed, which opens up the debate again of whether its best to go with experience or someone for the future that isnt ready yet?'"
Don't agree that Hall isn't ready yet. He is imo a much better proposition at centre than G Horne (though i do like Horne) and his broken field running and kick returns from full-back make him far more dangerous than Byrne. To leave him out of the side altogether would be a real cop out by the coach who's mindset is cleary about not losing rather than trying to win.
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| If Craig Hall doesn't start today I think its a sign of how things are going to go tactically this season. Also, if Hall doesn't play I will really feel for Calderwood. Starting outside G.Horne or Byrne will just mean him giving the same performances as he did at Wigan which is not what we want
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| I saw Motu earlier today, his left leg was strapped up and he was limping badly. I was hoping he would be fit for next week but looks like he may be out for a while.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"Don't agree that Hall isn't ready yet.'"
Without the opportunity to show it we wont know i guess but dont think the opportunity will be there tonight though.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Anyone got
Byrne
Calderwood
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Yeaman
Briscoe
Horne
Thorman
Dowes
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Cusack
Burnett
Radford
Tickle
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King
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Houghton'"
Weres the go forward in the forwards with the starting team? IMO one of King, Thacks and Manu [umust[/u be on the pitch at all times. I feel we may get overauled if this doesn't happen.....
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| Quote ="Beardo"Weres the go forward in the forwards with the starting team? IMO one of King, Thacks and Manu [umust[/u be on the pitch at all times. I feel we may get overauled if this doesn't happen.....'"
Dowes, Cusack, Radford and Tickle all give really good go forward without doing anything spectacular IMO. We'll see tonight if thats the team but lets wait and see.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Byrne brings a lot more to the side than safety, such as his support play.'" Your joking about the support play right
Hall at fullback was always pushing up on every play looking for an offload or a half break. If anything i would say support play and reading the game is Byrnes weak point.
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| Quote ="The Key"If Craig Hall doesn't start today I think its a sign of how things are going to go tactically this season. Also, if Hall doesn't play I will really feel for Calderwood. Starting outside G.Horne or Byrne will just mean him giving the same performances as he did at Wigan which is not what we want'"
I would like to see G Horne given a few games, dont you think he played any good against Wakey in the semi final last year. He has good footwork and can pass very well?
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Counting on Berrigan to do the full 80. Big risk imo.'" I agree if Berrigan starts blowing who are we going to put in at hooker. I know Leeds only carried 1 hooker for most of last season however they have Sinfield who has played at hooker to a rep level and he would often jump in at 9.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"I agree if Berrigan starts blowing who are we going to put in at hooker. I know Leeds only carried 1 hooker for most of last season however they have Sinfield who has played at hooker to a rep level and he would often jump in at 9.'" king could step in at hooker if houghtons not on the bench.
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| Quote ="Holty"king could step in at hooker if houghtons not on the bench.'"
Washy played there in chunks in the past if Berrigan gets injured.
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Your joking about the support play right
Hall at fullback was always pushing up on every play looking for an offload or a half break. If anything i would say support play and reading the game is Byrnes weak point.'"
Guess i just rate Byrne more than most people on here.
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Anyone got
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Swap Houghton for Wahbrook and that would be my 17.
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| Quote ="geordie thorman"Swap Houghton for Wahbrook and that would be my 17.'"
Agreed.
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| I was impressed with what JS had to say on KCFM today, 'we'll show real aggression'. I'm looking forward to that coming into our game, think we have been 'too soft for too long'.
I hope the 'under stating' of Hall so far during the close season is all a part of his progression, and lets see what he can do now without all the hype.
IMO it's got to be Hall at centre.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid" 'we'll show real aggression''"
Agree weve been missing that for too long.
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