A couple of times I didn't realise he had gone to the screen and wondered why it had stopped.

It felt like a loss the first 5 minutes coming out of the game last night before I released we had still done really well to win and played some good stuff. The wind really got up in the second half so some of the poor kicking from both sides was understandable. The only one that annoyed me was kicking out on the full for the second time to keep them in the game.

Just watched it back now and Cats were very lucky in the last 10 minutes, some dubious penalties and the phantom knock on from Tallanoa kept them in the game. For me it was a decent performance to build on, I don't expect to win at Saints next week but we need to go there and improve again.

I don't know about that, the wind was really strong and swirling in the second half.

And they should have been down to 12 men for the last 30 minutes or so. Seems a strange and blindingly obvious permutation to have missed.

Considering the mental capacity of our resident Trolls for a fair and unbiased analysis of all things Hull FC. Probably not.

Coulda shoulda woulda

Get over it, we won, your all upset, end of

If you'd believed Daft zod Mickey P wanted out of his deal back at the start. Bless him.

Proof please.

No? Thought not.

In weather like that getting a win is what it's all about, strange game all round with a stack of tries and lots of missed kicks. Think kicking will be a factor for a few teams this year, lots of 1st choice kickers moved on.
Surprised how good feka was and you look miles better with heramia on in place of houghton.
Moving McDonnell on May prove to be a mistake, shall is a talent but needs time to sort out positioning and along with Talanoa will be targeted with the high ball, not so much down the throat but on the run ones.

After watching the highlights back, I noticed that all of the missed kicks (from all kickers) bar one missed on the side that would suggest a strong South to North wind, i.e. missing by the near post at the North end and by the far post at the South end. Guess we'll know more about the quality of our kickers after a few more games as tonight could have mostly been the conditions.

I thought shaul did nothing wrong, sky picked up on him been out of position on Boscs 40/20 but it was the 4th play so as the system for 5th & last kicks were only your open side winger drops along with your fullback ,rather then both wingers with fullback in the middle it was just clever play by bosc to catch us out early, that kick was perfect it would have still made touch if Shaul would have been in the middle.

not picking on him, purely an observation. If you watch the whole game back and see how he marshals the line and certainly on 5th he looks pretty indecisive, as I said he will become at least a very good fb if not a top one but he needs the ability to be eased in rather than thrown in as first choice. Add to this your going to have talanoa who needs to readapt to rl and biggs who needs to learn the game and it'll be a lot of pressure on a young lad. As I say not a criticism just an obeervation.

I do see what you are saying but sometimes the thrown to the lions pays off, as it did with Crooks & Lineham only time will tell though, but he's willing to work at it & he has natural speed & very good awareness.

thankfully,no problems with my train down ,and enjoyed the game.only problems were on the way back home with disrupted train times.

just managed to watched the game back, first job Radford has to sort out is discipline! silly penalties could of cost us dear on friday night, all but 1 catalan try came off the back of penalties we gave them!

Well this is the first time I've had the opportunity to post my thoughts on the game so here goes...

Very pleased to get the two points. I thought we started poorly though and heaped pressure on ourselves by giving away so many penalties early on but once we calmed that down and managed to get our hands on the ball I thought we looked pretty good and our attacking play looked particularly impressive. Our new signings all did well and in Rankin I think we may have just found ourselves a very good player at half back.

My main negative has to be our collapse at the end. It felt like the players switched off having decided the match was won and it very nearly cost us.

Elima quite rightly charged but how did the referee miss it 5 games is no good to us now! www.newsnow.co.uk/A/696572714?-4338:2393

Elima quite rightly charged but how did the referee miss it 5 games is no good to us now! www.newsnow.co.uk/A/696572714?-4338:2393

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Elima quite rightly charged but how did the referee miss it 5 games is no good to us now! www.newsnow.co.uk/A/696572714?-4338:2393'" How did the ref miss it? Because he's a Rugby League ref. There's your answer

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Elima quite rightly charged but how did the referee miss it 5 games is no good to us now! www.newsnow.co.uk/A/696572714?-4338:2393'" How did the ref miss it? Because he's a Rugby League ref. There's your answer

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Elima quite rightly charged but how did the referee miss it 5 games is no good to us now! www.newsnow.co.uk/A/696572714?-4338:2393'" When the game is stopped,why cant the video referees advise the referee how bad the incident was ?

Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Elima quite rightly charged but how did the referee miss it 5 games is no good to us now! www.newsnow.co.uk/A/696572714?-4338:2393'" When the game is stopped,why cant the video referees advise the referee how bad the incident was ?

Absolutely right for any one who watched that on the TV as we did when we got home or as you did as it happened I would say that it was instantly recognisable as a sending off offence. Whatever ban is given in these circumstances is no reward to the opposing team quite the contrary in fact, because they could have lost a player through it

Do you not think if the system we just commented on was used,bowen,soliola and elima would have all gone and rightly so ??

Unusual as it seems, I actually agree with you. Until the referees and RFL are consistent and punish such incidents immediately i.e sending off, then offending teams will continue to see the benefit of foul play rather than the team offended against. On report is just a cop out for weak referees who should at the minimum being sending players to the sinbin.

I was thinking that when Sam Moa was sent off for that infamous shoulder charge the video referee commented on the occurrence, but for me there is no doubt it was so obvious on each of those three occasions you mention that the commentators all said it should be off so there is little doubt the video referee would too. I think it would be a massive improvement myself.

You see the issue for me is that the offending team should be one man short for their transgression, thus giving an advantage to the opposition, waiting till the following Tuesday to ban the player might handicap his team but gives no advantage to the innocent opposition on the day, who as I said earlier might even be actually penalised themselves when a 'fouled against' player has to come off or continues with concussion or his movement restricted.

Would 10 mins in the sin bin for anybody put on report be a start ?

Most certainly would I think, but I can't see them budging, although if it was for all on reports it would certainly give an advantage to the other team for 10 minutes and its probably the best solution because they won't use the other idea (consulting with the video re on possible sending off's) because
they'll say there isn't a video referee at every game.

It at least shows we can agree occasionally. Cheers