Against a big Huddersfield team in the forwards Playing Griffin in the second row would have been a smart move then we could have played Connor Wynne at centre who is much more of a threat at centre than Griffin, and left out Johnstone.
Carlos will not be back for the derby
Beginning to think like you we may have to use Connor at six and find a full back with pace and more positional sense as he was nowhere to be seen for McQueens try

I'm starting to agree too, that Connor shouldn't be our long term full back. However I don't blame him for the McQueen try. It was 1st tackle and he was just shadowing the ball, it was a nice heads up play by Giants. It's poor to see him not been able to get anywhere near Lolohea though

What? Griffin is lightning fast,great defence,and the ball handling skills of a Harlem Globetrotter and how he is not an England International ill never know

He is carrying a lower leg injury
Dont know who makes the decision to play whether its the player or the physio dept in this case

We looked better with McNamara and lovodua in the halves than gale and Reynolds

No structure

I think we turned up to blaise, just rock up its the cup throw the ball about, could sense it in the warm up interviews.

Criminally under used the props

And we need a clear leader, as some of the ends to the sets of 6 still leave alot to be desired even after sneyds departure.

Satae looked knackered 10 minutes on, clearly not match fit.

Griffin for me has been poor this season, often putting us under pressure with errors or brain darts or general sloppiness. Often smoothed over by an odd decent carry. Needs to do better.

Mentality all wrong today we should of won the forward battle first and foremost, but tried playing like the harlem globe trotters while getting the basics very wrong

I said pre match on here . We make the same mistakes over n over again
Players are Not 100% fit playing busted comes back to bite you on the butt. Yes we know experience counts but if not fully fit ,then use the squad depth

if the forwards dont get us on top the halves cannot perform.
Just look at Leeds.Two top class halves but no forward power to lay a platform
Indiscipline is our Achilles heel and the coach seemingly cannot do anything about it
The first half was a disaster with five errors and five penalties and obvious lack of possession but yet had it not been another brain fart by our future England International centre we still could have snatched the win

you really are boring going on about Griffin. We get it ok

What makes you think Leeds have two top class half’s?
The best half we had is playing for you!

What on earth?!

Leeds halves are probably the main reason they are so terrible.

disappointing performance yesterday..
totally outmuscled by a huddersfield pack, who ran direct, we were the opposite .
i felt our bench selection was questionable , excluding Evans, the other 3 offer no size,especially JJ.
Had we selected Grub, Fash, Evans & Bowden, imo, that has a better balance ,

individual errors cost us dearly again ,Griffin last week with a loose carry ,this week , a scruffy ptb, then another loose carry. Satae looks unfit, only lasted 10 minutes in his 2nd spell.

we go again ......

So called "Big time" players on big time money bottling it again

Said it for ages... another big game Connor is anonymous

Dave Chris noticed yet lads....?



"Houghton best hooker in the league" to our fans

Hes never been close to a England call up cause he's bang average

Still we'll win a Derby next week





Or maybe we'll start realising winnng trophys is better than beating the minnows across the road

There'll be no, new, shiny Tottenham stadium for us to visit in Londinium.
Such is life.
Well, it'd cost a small fortune in, travel, hotels and spendies.
Would only have got p!sshe'd all weekend.
Missed a full round of NRL.
And probably got our @rses handed to us cos we ain't very good.
Silver linings and all that.......................

Why was Lane dropped ? BH said ‘there’s things he needs to work on’ …… not the only one is he Brett ?!

Whilst everyone is saying ‘ahh well not good enough on the day’ etc spare a thought for Adam Pearson. A cup final would have been a fantastic income generator, he must be fuming, gutted, wondering what the hell is going on ?!

I saw Uncle Peter (Gentle) yesterday morning, sat up in the co-pilot seat, next to Anthony 'Hook' Griffin at Accor Stadium for the Bunnies/Saints game, and it got me musing.
For all Lee's faults, our little run of silverware success in 16/17, seemed an age ago. There was a steely determination, hunger, desire and even anxiety to win us something that we all craved so badly.
I didn't get the same vibe under PG and I'm not getting it from Brett Hodgson, although I doubt it's through lack of wanting.
Maybe you need to know the city, the people, the history?
A leader on the pitch is also massive.
Kearney or Ellis-esque.

Unfortunately from 2018 onwards we didn't have much steely determination, hunger or desire from Radfords team.

We hardly picked up any key injuries in 16/17 too.

Eventually the club became stale under Radford with the majority of the big earning squad members contracted until the end of this season. So we haven't had much wiggle room to bring the right players in.

In 16/17 we had a better squad and very few injuries. The pack was top notch and the players in it at peak form - Taylor, Houghton, Watts, Mini, Sika, Ellis - four out of this six made the SL Dream team in 2016 and Bowden/Green were really solid interchanges. This provided that platform for Shaul and Fonua (also Dream Team) and Sneyd. Teams outside the Big Four need some level of luck to achieve stuff and maybe having a fit squad and a combo of quality players in their pomp with some very experienced ones recognising a last hurrah coming up was ours. To deliver consistently though you need big £ invested in infrastructure IMO - environment, youth pipeline, off field, and most clubs don't have that hence the stranglehold of Saints/Wigan/Leeds on the SL title for years.

Halcyon days indeed. [i(> lets out a nostalgic sigh <icon_wink.gif[/i

Hodgson didn't sound happy, let's see use of the squad, drop the under performers.

Swift out for Wynne.
Vuli out for Carlos if fit.
Need more from Griffin, Gale and Satae.
Lane in for Johnstone

Has to start Lovodua at 9, get structured and organised, get the props working, start Evans who looked hungry if we have too and bring Satae onto the bench.

No intensity yesterday

That was the most disappointing aspect. That said I'd be surprised if Huddersfield don't make the playoffs, they're a handy side.

There had been talk during the week about having ‘selection headaches’ and, maybe an unpopular opinion here, but Ive never really understood why this is seen a positive thing?

Don’t get me wrong, I like Hodgson, we have seen glimpses of the changes he’s making to the squad and overall we are playing a better style of rugby. But I am not convinced that he knows what his best squad is. Having a half on the bench is just baffling to me, you have to play one or the other, not both. We play with 3 hookers on the pitch yet continue to slog out houghton for 80 minutes? Give the fella a breather and he might actually start showing some intent in attack.

Spoke a big game during the week about making harsh decisions and players having to miss out and I didn’t really see it yesterday. Hoping savelio isn’t anything too serious

Oh it was definitely going to be an arm wrestle. Or should of been, we turned up thinking we were playing Sheffield again, trying to play like the Harlem globe trotters.

I'd really like to see Gale getting our sets of 6 organised more and demanding the props get involved more. Sick of seeing Swift carting the ball out our 20 and making 5 metres.

No real platform for the creative players to create chances due to the wrong game plan (I feel we should of concentrated on winning the forward battle first as we did when we played hudds at home) , coupled with sloppy play and errors. Twice Swifts bombed easy catchs out wide now, dropped one vs hudds at home too.

Let's have some accountability and some changes, and we may see some consistency and a few get their fingers out.

I think we l beat Rovers, I'd like to see Wynne and Lane come back in at least if we're going on form.

Team for Rovers would be.

Connor
Wynne
Griffin
Carlos
Macintosh
Gale
Reynolds
Sao
Lovodua
Evans
Savelio
Mau
Brown

Houghton
Satae
Lane
Fash

I really don’t understand this hate of houghton. Sat in amongst the giants fans a bunch of us were saying how much we admired him.
You need your work horses, and he will give 100% every game. Players like that is why hudds have been more successful this season.
Your big name players just didn’t perform. Connor was too busy trying to con a penalty every set than trying to create anything (someone should tell him he missed the BAFTAs) and Gale is- well just gale. Never rated him and biggest mistake you made was swapping sneyd for Gale IMO.