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| Surely Last has to go
Come on
He’s totally part of the package
Surely
KP and Ellis is a logical 1-2
There won’t be a game to coach but AL has had his time as a 2 and needs to find a 1 role where he can test himself
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| Quote ="IR80"and two matches for Shaul for the trip...'"
It was Sneyd who tripped Gelling.
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| Hard to be positive about the game, but thought Jack Brown look qulaity again, he would be in my 17 every week, going to be superstar.Id have him as my 4th prop above Bowden and the others.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Hard to be positive about the game, but thought Jack Brown look qulaity again, he would be in my 17 every week, going to be superstar.Id have him as my 4th prop above Bowden and the others.'"
Definitely, showed up very well in an awful show. Carlos was tireless again and could have done with some support on the 2 breaks he made.
I'd be looking to move Bowden on if he doesn't improve soon.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Definitely, showed up very well in an awful show. Carlos was tireless again and could have done with some support on the 2 breaks he made.
I'd be looking to move Bowden on if he doesn't improve soon.'"
Depends on Bowdens wage, if it isnt too high I'd keep him, we know he can be a a very prop, maybe a new coach can get the best out of him.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Depends on Bowdens wage, if it isnt too high I'd keep him, we know he can be a a very prop, maybe a new coach can get the best out of him.'"
True. I guess the departure of a coach buys everyone a reprieve.
It'll be an interesting remainder of the season that's for sure.
In all the hooha about Radders I haven't heard anything about Fonua. It looked like a rib injury from where I was sat.
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| I don’t think we can blame any one player putting in a poor performance when it was dire across the board, and something has clearly been building behind closed doors. It’s how they respond now that decides their future.
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| Bad discipline, no passion, no FC spirit, no leadership, players doing as they like on and off the filed and away from the Club new signings upset by what they found and incoming players upset by the ways things are done it has all gone bad and a change was so, so needed. Too cosy for some, too clicky for others. 80% of attitude is down to how the player feels about himself and his playing environment. Pearson was absolutely apoplectic at the end last night and I have to say quite rightly too, he's facing a massive financial headache and he wants the fans with him not going home on 60 minutes.
However if anyone thinks that we will be appointing a new Coach as we approach the most testing time for the Club since the David Lloyd years and a time when the whole game is under threat is pretty deluded for me. We are going to struggle to survive the next six months big style and the fans will have to rally round the owner and the players and do whatever we can to help the Club survive. All sport is threatened by this virus and if we can save the wages of a Coach for a few months I think we will.
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| It certainly didn't look a happy camp. When Shaul booted the ball out instead of dropping on it near our line in the first half Josh Jones had a right go at him and then Shaul started chirping back.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Quote ="Dave K."Hard to be positive about the game, but thought Jack Brown look qulaity again, he would be in my 17 every week, going to be superstar.Id have him as my 4th prop above Bowden and the others.'"
Definitely, showed up very well in an awful show. Carlos was tireless again and could have done with some support on the 2 breaks he made.
I'd be looking to move Bowden on if he doesn't improve soon.'"
Agree about Brown, he never took a backwards step, thought Masi seemed a little better too though for some reason he was offering himself alot last night but was bypassed continually.
As for Carlos he was probably the standout and not surprised when he made the breaks he had no support as that is one of the issues with the way we play as we just don't have any support play and no one prepared/ready for an offload or a break.
The last break Carlos made after getting the ball off Shaul for me any fullback worth his salt would have then followed Carlos and been there ready to take a pass and finish the move with a try.
Its a shame that AP has had to act but ultimately LR has had more than enough opportunities to solve the many issues in our play and take what they always say about great week in training out into the games. Think the Leeds game apart the rest of the games so far the season we have been pretty poor and after last night there was not even any sign of improvement. Yes we had a lot of players out but we didn't even give Warrington (who were poor themselves) any where near a game and that for me was the problem as adversity aside the 17 as a group should have performed far better.
Certain senior players also need to take a long hard look at themselves too as they have just been too comfortable.
Fresh start and clean slate now, whoever comes in has a very squad to work with.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Bad discipline, no passion, no FC spirit, no leadership, players doing as they like on and off the filed and away from the Club new signings upset by what they found and incoming players upset by the ways things are done it has all gone bad and a change was so, so needed. To cosy for some to removed for others. Pearson was absolutely apoplectic at the end last night and I have to say quite rightly too.
However if anyone thinks that we will be appointing a new Coach as we approach the most testing time for the Club since the David Lloyd years and a time when the whole game is under threat is pretty deluded for me. We are going to struggle to survive the next six months and the fans will have to rally round the owner and the players and do whatever we can to help the Club survive. All sport is threatened by this virus and if we can save the wages of a Coach for a few months I think we will.'"
Pearson is as culpable as anyone. He's sat on his hands for far to long and watched it deteriorate. What will have influenced him more than anything was the turnout last night and then the walkout. Can't have been many left at the hooter.
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| Carlos with 246 metres last night is a unbelievable effort
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| Quote ="scarrie"It certainly didn't look a happy camp. When Shaul booted the ball out instead of dropping on it near our line in the first half Josh Jones had a right go at him and then Shaul started chirping back.'"
Jones had every right to have a go. I couldn't believe he just booted it out.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"Quote ="scarrie"It certainly didn't look a happy camp. When Shaul booted the ball out instead of dropping on it near our line in the first half Josh Jones had a right go at him and then Shaul started chirping back.'"
Jones had every right to have a go. I couldn't believe he just booted it out.'"
Exactly all he had to do was just drop on it and as you say Jones had every right to tell him as much. Think that is part and parcel of some of the issues in the squad that some players are too cosy and LR was too matey with players rather than being the boss. Unfortunately its a lesson I learnt after being in a team at work and one of the lads to then having to manage the same group. You can no longer have that same relationship and have to distance yourself so lines are not blurred.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"Jones had every right to have a go. I couldn't believe he just booted it out.'"
Oh I quite agree, I was amazed when he didn't drop on it.
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| Quote ="scarrie"Oh I quite agree, I was amazed when he didn't drop on it.'"
I shouted at Shaul more than Jones did I think! 3 yards from our line, just fall on it. As soon as you are touched it is tackle complete. Stupid decision
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"I shouted at Shaul more than Jones did I think! 3 yards from our line, just fall on it. As soon as you are touched it is tackle complete. Stupid decision'"
I'm not so sure. Isn't it the case that the tackle is complete when the momentum stops?
From where I was sitting, it looked like if he had dropped on it, the chasers would have tackled him, and, with the momentum, they would have all ended up in goal. With the same result.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Bad discipline, no passion, no FC spirit, no leadership, players doing as they like on and off the filed and away from the Club new signings upset by what they found and incoming players upset by the ways things are done it has all gone bad and a change was so, so needed. Too cosy for some, too clicky for others. 80% of attitude is down to how the player feels about himself and his playing environment. Pearson was absolutely apoplectic at the end last night and I have to say quite rightly too, he's facing a massive financial headache and he wants the fans with him not going home on 60 minutes.
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Unbelievable Pete!!
1. Why has the owner allowed the environment to deteriorate??..( as soon as AP saw this, he should have fired Radford ..)
2. A new broom is clearly needed, high profile players need to respect their Manager, keeping Last wont change anything, nor an unproven Head Coach,nor a lower division Head Coach.
3. Maybe Purcell & Ellis be a better short term solution?
4. If a new player wants away, let him go, use that money to replace Radford..
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| [* Quote ="Hasbag"It was Sneyd who tripped Gelling.'"
thanks, I meant Sneyd... (not that I think it was bad, but Tomkins got 2 matches for the same)
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| Looking at other sports I'd be amazed if we play any games in the next two weeks.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"I'm not so sure. Isn't it the case that the tackle is complete when the momentum stops?
From where I was sitting, it looked like if he had dropped on it, the chasers would have tackled him, and, with the momentum, they would have all ended up in goal. With the same result.'"
the momentum would have stopped when he dropped on it. tackle complete.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"I'm not so sure. Isn't it the case that the tackle is complete when the momentum stops?
From where I was sitting, it looked like if he had dropped on it, the chasers would have tackled him, and, with the momentum, they would have all ended up in goal. With the same result.'"
Very possibly but not necessarily. The point is he had the time and space to drop on it and potentially avoid a drop out. Instead it looked like he couldn't be d and booted it dead.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"the momentum would have stopped when he dropped on it. tackle complete.'"
I don’t agree. He and the Wire chasers were moving at speed an very likely would have continued to the in goal.
However, what I do agree with, is that Shaul, despite his odd moments of glory, isn’t good enough for a SL full back.
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| Quote ="Large Paws"I don’t agree. He and the Wire chasers were moving at speed an very likely would have continued to the in goal.
However, what I do agree with, is that Shaul, despite his odd moments of glory, isn’t good enough for a SL full back.'"
No Shaul should have dropped on it. He had space and time to do so.
Anyway so many inexcusable mistakes and poor play and attitude.
I said during the game that the team weren't playing for Lee, even for us that was bad.
Strange how player power both got him and lost him his job
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| My issue with Shaul is his lack of attacking nounce. We must have the only fullback that breaks attacks down.
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