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| Quote ="Dave K."If that's your reserves they look better than the first team, maybe you should play them more than the overpaid first team, who have failed this year?'" and if that's your overpaid near starting 13 you would have been better playing your reserves ,
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| you've had your day in the sun, you better get back to worrying if there will be another derby next year,
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| A few observations on last night just to get them off my chest.
A dramatic occasion being a Derby and in that weather but probably one of the poorest quality games of rugby I can remember seeing. If I see another game where all the tries are so scrambled and scrappy I will lose interest.
We were poor and Rovers slightly less so, so the best team won.
He was not the reason we lost but Hewer was poor. I do not watch Rovers so do not know anything about about Jewitt but what a cheap thug. At least a couple of late, off the ball tackles which along with the crusher tackle on Griffin and Tickle's charge in to Taylor's back when he was held should be reviewed by the disciplinary committee. If not then a few fellow professionals should give Tickle a good talking to down a dark alley because that was simply dangerous. I like Tickle from his time at Hull but that was poor. When Hewer called Scruton over for his second high tackle he seemed to give him a one word telling off - comical.
Wet slippery conditions so for god's sake why don't players carry the ball in two hands? Our ball control was pathetic and probably cost us the game. We made good yards and in the first half at least barely finished a set.
Our creativity in attack in the absence of Kelly and Connor is non existent. This is not a criticism of Sneyd who does a different job.
I would be happier with Crooks and Hall in our squad than some of the youngsters we have persisted with who I do not think will make the grade - not as regular first teamers but good back up squad members.
We are on a poor run but I am glad I am not a Leeds fan.
How does an 80 minute game last 2 hrs and 10 minutes?
The roof leaks above my seat in the West Stand!
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| Quote ="hull2524"you've had your day in the sun, you better get back to worrying if there will be another derby next year,'"
So will Adam Pearson, after all, you’ve made a loss this year or are on to if I’m not mistaken?
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"This result would have been heaven for knockersbump what a pity he’s banned he was so close'"
So true, he must be loving it, God rest his rlfans soul.
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| I don't pretend to know if we are or not, last nights gate wont do us any harm,
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"You know I love you MR, but what sort of "bantz" is this? Throw some petrol on our bonfire of overreaction please, balanced analysis has its place but not here & now
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Hope your flight was okay - gone somewhere nice?
I think Hull will be alright next season. The lad Matongo is going to be a player, I think - but he looks knackered at the moment. Taylor is fearsome, but he’s walking like somebody carrying about four injuries - painful just to watch. Bienek looks like he could eat three shredded wheat, from the clips i’ve seen. That said, I think you either need to adapt the way you play or sign another proven SL-level prop, if you want to be better than ‘alright’. If they’re fit, I think Connor, Kelly, Sneyd, Houghton is your best spine. Connor would almost inevitably play some games at centre or 6, so Shaul would still be an important part of the squad. Houghton could do to be spelled more nowadays too.
What would be a fair price for Jordan Abdull, I wonder.
We still need to be bigger and stronger, although Tomkins and Greenwood in the second row would/should help, for all that Greenwood has become worryingly error prone. Another in the mold of Mose Masoe would be nice too.
If Crooks can maintain last night’s form through the 8s I’d be very happy to sign him for 2019. Danny Tickle - best worst signing ever!
Now if we can just stay in SL...
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| Quote ="moxi1"So will Adam Pearson, after all, you’ve made a loss this year or are on to if I’m not mistaken?'"
… £500k for the aussie trip, allegedly.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"You must have missed those booming up and unders, and his superb field kicking gaining much more meters than any other place kicker we have, giving us countless opportunities which we squandered deep in rovers territory, also his attacking kicking game across their line, a couple of matches into his season, after a real nasty fracture of his leg/ankle.'"
I would like to see him and Atkin together behind a big Rovers pack in the coming years.
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Hope your flight was okay - gone somewhere nice?
I think Hull will be alright next season. The lad Matongo is going to be a player, I think - but he looks knackered at the moment. Taylor is fearsome, but he’s walking like somebody carrying about four injuries - painful just to watch. Bienek looks like he could eat three shredded wheat, from the clips i’ve seen. That said, I think you either need to adapt the way you play or sign another proven SL-level prop, if you want to be better than ‘alright’. If they’re fit, I think Connor, Kelly, Sneyd, Houghton is your best spine. Connor would almost inevitably play some games at centre or 6, so Shaul would still be an important part of the squad. Houghton could do to be spelled more nowadays too.
What would be a fair price for Jordan Abdull, I wonder.
We still need to be bigger and stronger, although Tomkins and Greenwood in the second row would/should help, for all that Greenwood has become worryingly error prone. Another in the mold of Mose Masoe would be nice too.
If Crooks can maintain last night’s form through the 8s I’d be very happy to sign him for 2019. Danny Tickle - best worst signing ever!
Now if we can just stay in SL...'"
We can swap Jordan for Robbie M no fee needed.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"If they’re fit, I think Connor, Kelly, Sneyd, Houghton is your best spine.'"
Been barking up that tree for a while, especially when Shaul was playing absolutely shiiiite first half of the season. Can't see him ever being dropped tbh.
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| Quote ="hesslefan"A few observations on last night just to get them off my chest.
A dramatic occasion being a Derby and in that weather but probably one of the poorest quality games of rugby I can remember seeing. If I see another game where all the tries are so scrambled and scrappy I will lose interest.
We were poor and Rovers slightly less so, so the best team won.
He was not the reason we lost but Hewer was poor. I do not watch Rovers so do not know anything about about Jewitt but what a cheap thug. At least a couple of late, off the ball tackles which along with the crusher tackle on Griffin and Tickle's charge in to Taylor's back when he was held should be reviewed by the disciplinary committee. If not then a few fellow professionals should give Tickle a good talking to down a dark alley because that was simply dangerous. I like Tickle from his time at Hull but that was poor. When Hewer called Scruton over for his second high tackle he seemed to give him a one word telling off - comical.
Wet slippery conditions so for god's sake why don't players carry the ball in two hands? Our ball control was pathetic and probably cost us the game. We made good yards and in the first half at least barely finished a set.
Our creativity in attack in the absence of Kelly and Connor is non existent. This is not a criticism of Sneyd who does a different job.
I would be happier with Crooks and Hall in our squad than some of the youngsters we have persisted with who I do not think will make the grade - not as regular first teamers but good back up squad members.
We are on a poor run but I am glad I am not a Leeds fan.
How does an 80 minute game last 2 hrs and 10 minutes?
The roof leaks above my seat in the West Stand!'"
The Tickle hit on Taylor was really cheap. Nothing illegal about it of course, but I still dont like to players flying in on a defenceless player like that, especially in the back. Pretty cowardly and potentially dangerous. When you consider some of the really cheap penalties that are awarded for marginal high tackles, maybe they should be penalised aswell.
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| Quote ="the cal train"Been barking up that tree for a while, especially when Shaul was playing absolutely shiiiite first half of the season. Can't see him ever being dropped tbh.'"
Connor is our best player (imo) and we need to get him in the team. Shaul is the weak link out of the positions Connor can play. People are crying out for some pace out wide. The obvious answer is Connor at 1 and Shaul at 5 isn't it?
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| Quote ="hesslefan"A few observations on last night just to get them off my chest.
A dramatic occasion being a Derby and in that weather but probably one of the poorest quality games of rugby I can remember seeing. If I see another game where all the tries are so scrambled and scrappy I will lose interest.
We were poor and Rovers slightly less so, so the best team won.
He was not the reason we lost but Hewer was poor. I do not watch Rovers so do not know anything about about Jewitt but what a cheap thug. At least a couple of late, off the ball tackles which along with the crusher tackle on Griffin and Tickle's charge in to Taylor's back when he was held should be reviewed by the disciplinary committee. If not then a few fellow professionals should give Tickle a good talking to down a dark alley because that was simply dangerous. I like Tickle from his time at Hull but that was poor. When Hewer called Scruton over for his second high tackle he seemed to give him a one word telling off - comical.
Wet slippery conditions so for god's sake why don't players carry the ball in two hands? Our ball control was pathetic and probably cost us the game. We made good yards and in the first half at least barely finished a set.
Our creativity in attack in the absence of Kelly and Connor is non existent. This is not a criticism of Sneyd who does a different job.
I would be happier with Crooks and Hall in our squad than some of the youngsters we have persisted with who I do not think will make the grade - not as regular first teamers but good back up squad members.
We are on a poor run but I am glad I am not a Leeds fan.
How does an 80 minute game last 2 hrs and 10 minutes?
The roof leaks above my seat in the West Stand!'"
Taylor was held, but not ‘HELD!’, so Tickle’s tackle was brutal but legal. It made me wince-smile, i’ll say that. There was nowt in the ‘crusher tackle’ on slapper Griffin, and i’ll be disgusted if that gets a charge... although not necessarily surprised.
Nothing personal, but the mental image of you with a monk-on, sat beneath the leaking roof made me snort-laugh, and turned an ordinary post into something of literary merit.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Connor is our best player (imo) and we need to get him in the team. Shaul is the weak link out of the positions Connor can play. People are crying out for some pace out wide. The obvious answer is Connor at 1 and Shaul at 5 isn't it?'"
Is Shaul fast though? When did he last make a break and not get chased down? Haven't seen him get a shift on since he chased down Sandow at Wembley in 2016.
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The fine wine, caviar and cigars, can only be dined out on for so long.
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| Quote ="the cal train"Is Shaul fast though? When did he last make a break and not get chased down? Haven't seen him get a shift on since he chased down Sandow at Wembley in 2016.'"
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Taylor was held, but not ‘HELD!’, so Tickle’s tackle was brutal but legal. It made me wince-smile, i’ll say that. There was nowt in the ‘crusher tackle’ on slapper Griffin, and i’ll be disgusted if that gets a charge... although not necessarily surprised.
Nothing personal, but the mental image of you with a monk-on, sat beneath the leaking roof made me snort-laugh, and turned an ordinary post into something of literary merit.
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Yeah the Griffin crusher was a whole load of nothing. Makes me cringe when fans are screaming and chanting for the ref to send him off. Griffin just turned in the tackle and and I don't think there wasn't really any unnecessary pressure applied. I do though have a problem with the inconsistencies that referees show in this situation, such as in the CC cup game when Richardson turned his back into Houghton and we ended up getting a yellow card from it.
Tickle hit into Taylor's back as you say was a legal challenge. Bad sportsmanship most definitely. The tackle was complete (held hadn't been called but it was pbvious nobody was going anywhere) and he was wrapped up by 3 men. Very unnecessary but nothing in the rules against it.
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| Quote ="Hasbag"Yeah the Griffin crusher was a whole load of nothing. Makes me cringe when fans are screaming and chanting for the ref to send him off. Griffin just turned in the tackle and and I don't think there wasn't really any unnecessary pressure applied. I do though have a problem with the inconsistencies that referees show in this situation, such as in the CC cup game when Richardson turned his back into Houghton and we ended up getting a yellow card from it.
Tickle hit into Taylor's back as you say was a legal challenge. Bad sportsmanship most definitely. The tackle was complete (held hadn't been called but it was pbvious nobody was going anywhere) and he was wrapped up by 3 men. Very unnecessary but nothing in the rules against it.'"
Yeah, i’ve got to admit to enjoying it as guilty pleasure and acknowledge my hypocrisy in that i’d be pretty unimpressed if it was the other way around. But you can always justify it by recalling times when we’ve been bullied or suffered for being too nice, if you want to. I’ve got enough material to keep buying off my conscience for a good while to come fortunately/unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Seriously?'"
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| just had a look at the dobbins board.what a load of cretins on there gloating and creaming their jeans over the tackle on Taylor by tickle.a lot of sick individuals.i would never gloat about something like that,no matter who the player was.
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Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"just had a look at the dobbins board.what a load of cretins on there gloating and creaming their jeans over the tackle on Taylor by tickle.a lot of sick individuals.i would never gloat about something like that,no matter who the player was.'"
Put yourselves in their position for a moment. They loved Scott Taylor and called for him to get a 5 year deal there. Just look at this:
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Then imagine that Hudgell tries to stall his arrival at Hull FC so he sends him to Wigan where he learns how to win trophies. Then he brings that knowledge to Hull and is a pivotal player in us ending the Wembley hoodoo and winning back to back Challenge Cups, whilst getting in the Dream Team and earning the international selection they said he would achieve with them. Then being vocal about his love for Hull FC. You can see why they'd be hoping he'll come a cropper. Savouring a rough tackle by Danny Tickle is fair enough in that context, meaningless in the bigger picture but a crumb of consolation in our relative achievements of the last few seasons.
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Put yourselves in their position for a moment. They loved Scott Taylor and called for him to get a 5 year deal there. Just look at this:
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=522913
Then imagine that Hudgell tries to stall his arrival at Hull FC so he sends him to Wigan where he learns how to win trophies. Then he brings that knowledge to Hull and is a pivotal player in us ending the Wembley hoodoo and winning back to back Challenge Cups, whilst getting in the Dream Team and earning the international selection they said he would achieve with them. Then being vocal about his love for Hull FC. You can see why they'd be hoping he'll come a cropper. Savouring a rough tackle by Danny Tickle is fair enough in that context, meaningless in the bigger picture but a crumb of consolation in our relative achievements of the last few seasons.
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| Interesting for me to be reminded how nervous I was about ‘building for the future’ as early as March 2012. I’m not sure we got ‘admired’, but ‘patronised’ and ‘struggling’, tick and tick. Like a Hull KR Cassandra, me - it’s cack being right sometimes.
Given the nature of our sport, I think ‘sick’ is a helluva of a stretch. I’d put it beside that time Travis Burns picked up an opponent’s boot and wanged it down the other end of the pitch.
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| I watched Taylor make his debut as a 16 year old yes it would have been great to keep him because you knew he was going to be a great player but it wasn’t to be yeah I enjoyed the tackle and if it had been the other way round I’d have called it a cheap shot but that’s what fans do
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Then imagine that Hudgell tries to stall his arrival at Hull FC so he sends him to Wigan where he learns how to win trophies. Then he brings that knowledge to Hull and is a pivotal player in us ending the Wembley hoodoo and winning back to back Challenge Cups, whilst getting in the Dream Team and earning the international selection they said he would achieve with them. Then being vocal about his love for Hull FC. You can see why they'd be hoping he'll come a cropper. Savouring a rough tackle by Danny Tickle is fair enough in that context, meaningless in the bigger picture but a crumb of consolation in our relative achievements of the last few seasons.
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how the worms turn.then I am being generous calling them worms.
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Then imagine that Hudgell tries to stall his arrival at Hull FC so he sends him to Wigan where he learns how to win trophies. Then he brings that knowledge to Hull and is a pivotal player in us ending the Wembley hoodoo and winning back to back Challenge Cups, whilst getting in the Dream Team and earning the international selection they said he would achieve with them. Then being vocal about his love for Hull FC. You can see why they'd be hoping he'll come a cropper. Savouring a rough tackle by Danny Tickle is fair enough in that context, meaningless in the bigger picture but a crumb of consolation in our relative achievements of the last few seasons.
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how the worms turn.then I am being generous calling them worms.
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