I agree also, but currently I not convinced either of them are good enough.

I don't think Miller will ever get any better than he is now.

7's are not made or coached. They're born and play with a natural flair.

I would definitely keep Rankin and lose Horne. Rankin gives 100% and can play fullback.

Rangi Chase is NOT the player we need. He's got some incredible skills but more baggage than Terminal 5 and goes missing.
In the last few games I've seen him, he doesn't follow structures - his own players never know whats going to happen with the result the ball is flung into touch or into a playerless gap.

You don't think Danny Brough is a better player now than he was at 20?

trouble you'll have is if miller doesn't want to go or get a better offer he won't go anywhere

He's always been a good player. The point is, you can't give a hooker a '7' shirt. We tried it many times, giving players the shirt who can't play in that position, all failed.

I'm really not sure about Miller. He has the skill set to be a really good player, the problem is he has no real game sense. Given a few years to learn his craft I do think he can develop into a good 7. However we can't wait that long.

I also think he needs either a top coach to work with, or to be alongside a top class half that he can learn from, and it doesn't seem likely that he will get either at Hull.

They're not. rankin has a bit of pace and at least runs at the line but has little in the way of creativity. Both way out of their depth and it was a stupid decision to pin our season on 2 inexperienced halfs and Richard Horne

Its not even about us waiting. As soon as he did find some form he'd fook off back to the NRL anyway leaving us back to square one.

Same as Rankin. Both will never find the form though as they are mid to bottom table NSW cup at best

Seems James Smailes is using rumours for his material looking at today's HDM !!

Not necessarily disagreeing but why not? We seem to be in the process of waiting and waiting until the side is settled, the coaching set up is right, our young players are ready, the older players have gone, etc. Why not wait for Miller too?

This season is pretty much written off now, so why not give him and Rankin time to develop?

My thoughts too .
The dip in form of the side is not solely down to Miller and Rankin .
The dip in form of our pack has coincided with teams poor performances.

The answer to that I guess is because we/AP will only wait so long and then at some point if things haven't improved will get rid and we'll be back to square one , or worse , again and it'll be the same next year and next year...........
Maybe it'll be different this time but our recent history just makes me pessimistic on that count.
Hopefully we're waiting and we'll persevere with these guys until and unless we get a replacement where there's some certainty that the player coming in is significantly better than what we have. With the threat of relegation it's not exactly the thing that AP and Radford can be saying publicly either , much as they probably want to get the fans on side , until a deal is actually done and probably until the season is over or we're safe.

Sandercock made Dobson into a better player by getting him to run more with the ball attacking the line and hitting the gaps.Dobson would break the line several times in a game.
Miller has a bit of pace and should be doing the same and working on his kicking game,but we don't have a coach who brings the best out of players.
Ben Crooks is just one who is going backwards under Radford

Apparently we're 1 of 4 clubs looking at Eloi Pelissier along with KR, Cas & Salford.

surely he'll be Salford bound along with the rest of super league

What if they don't develop?

Hudge wanted a transfer fee for Taylor and received a good one from Wigan. Pardon the pun, but we should he invest in Taylor's development and let him go 'Scott' free?!
From what I have heard Mr Taylor has a massive ego, bordering on arrogant. Still, good player though, would have thought Wigan would want to keep him.

He is more likely to go to KR to replace Hodgson

Fair point, and I guess we have to call it at some point. But others have been given time, so why shouldn't they? It's a fine balance, but there are people more qualified than me to make that decision.

Stands back and waits for bite

Dobson had a running game from day one, scored a hattrick on his debut running the line under Morgan, problem with him was clubs closed him down quickly as its obvious the ball was going to him.

Scott taylor signed a extention at Wigan and I'm led to believe he does not have a clue were these hull rumours came from

He will be an FC player next season #believe.

Tis' true that Hodgson no doubt will be leaving end of the season (3rd and final year).
I'd be a tad disappointed if we signed Pelissier as a replacement winger though.

Me too, we'd need a hooker.