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Quote ="Mild Rover"Yeah, I thought it was a joke when a Hull fan first mentioned it to me, but when you look at the SL ooc list it's easier to see why leftfield options are worth considering.
While Pearson is no doubt ambitious, as a businessman I assume he wants to run or (eventually) sell HFC at a profit. McManus isn't attempting to do that, so Saints are less a bit less constrained - though they are trying to put a bit of a brake on their heavy losses. Paea's very good and the scrapheap can yield the odd gem.
Plus, with crowds down at Hull (as well as pretty much everywhere else), while I'm sure you'll still be at the cap, if you were 'stretching' it before, it might make sense not to do so, so much now.'"
With regards to Pearson, all he's got to do to make us profitable is get us to Wembley. I'd be shocked if we didn't finish this season well in the black. I also don't believe he's daft enough to think he'll ever make a great deal of money from a rugby league club.
You're possibly making an assumption about McManus too. I've seen an interview with him suggesting that's he's investing now in the hopes of Saints becoming profitable. This article seems to suggest the same...
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Quote ="Mild Rover"Yeah, I thought it was a joke when a Hull fan first mentioned it to me, but when you look at the SL ooc list it's easier to see why leftfield options are worth considering.
While Pearson is no doubt ambitious, as a businessman I assume he wants to run or (eventually) sell HFC at a profit. McManus isn't attempting to do that, so Saints are less a bit less constrained - though they are trying to put a bit of a brake on their heavy losses. Paea's very good and the scrapheap can yield the odd gem.
Plus, with crowds down at Hull (as well as pretty much everywhere else), while I'm sure you'll still be at the cap, if you were 'stretching' it before, it might make sense not to do so, so much now.'"
With regards to Pearson, all he's got to do to make us profitable is get us to Wembley. I'd be shocked if we didn't finish this season well in the black. I also don't believe he's daft enough to think he'll ever make a great deal of money from a rugby league club.
You're possibly making an assumption about McManus too. I've seen an interview with him suggesting that's he's investing now in the hopes of Saints becoming profitable. This article seems to suggest the same...
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regards feka, he could be our worst signing,could be our best, must admit looking forward to seeing him play
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Quote ="Raggytash"With regards to Pearson, all he's got to do to make us profitable is get us to Wembley. I'd be shocked if we didn't finish this season well in the black. I also don't believe he's daft enough to think he'll ever make a great deal of money from a rugby league club.
You're possibly making an assumption about McManus too. I've seen an interview with him suggesting that's he's investing now in the hopes of Saints becoming profitable. This article seems to suggest the same...
www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1067 ... _position/'"
'All'? 
Unlikely to happen year in, year out. I've got no idea what his business plan is, but he's likely to have one and there's at least a chance that it doesn't involve paying out transfer fees more often than he has to.
St. Helens might well one day get close to breakeven or even make a modest profit (I'm sceptical, but you never know), but EM will never see a significant financial return on his investment and will end up writing off millions. AP, while perhaps not expecting a huge return, also won't want to be down on the deal. Even if he were/is, [isome[/i prioritisation would be inevitable. |
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Quote ="Raggytash"With regards to Pearson, all he's got to do to make us profitable is get us to Wembley. I'd be shocked if we didn't finish this season well in the black. I also don't believe he's daft enough to think he'll ever make a great deal of money from a rugby league club.
You're possibly making an assumption about McManus too. I've seen an interview with him suggesting that's he's investing now in the hopes of Saints becoming profitable. This article seems to suggest the same...
www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1067 ... _position/'"
'All'?
Unlikely to happen year in, year out. I've got no idea what his business plan is, but he's likely to have one and there's at least a chance that it doesn't involve paying out transfer fees more often than he has to.
St. Helens might well one day get close to breakeven or even make a modest profit (I'm sceptical, but you never know), but EM will never see a significant financial return on his investment and will end up writing off millions. AP, while perhaps not expecting a huge return, also won't want to be down on the deal. Even if he were/is, [isome[/i prioritisation would be inevitable. | |
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Quote ="Raggytash"With regards to Pearson, all he's got to do to make us profitable is get us to Wembley. I'd be shocked if we didn't finish this season well in the black. I also don't believe he's daft enough to think he'll ever make a great deal of money from a rugby league club.
You're possibly making an assumption about McManus too. I've seen an interview with him suggesting that's he's investing now in the hopes of Saints becoming profitable. This article seems to suggest the same...
www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1067 ... _position/'"
Be in no doubt that Adam Pearson bought Hull FC with the ultimate intention of selling it for more than he paid for it.
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Quote ="Raggytash"With regards to Pearson, all he's got to do to make us profitable is get us to Wembley. I'd be shocked if we didn't finish this season well in the black. I also don't believe he's daft enough to think he'll ever make a great deal of money from a rugby league club.
You're possibly making an assumption about McManus too. I've seen an interview with him suggesting that's he's investing now in the hopes of Saints becoming profitable. This article seems to suggest the same...
www.sthelensstar.co.uk/news/1067 ... _position/'"
Be in no doubt that Adam Pearson bought Hull FC with the ultimate intention of selling it for more than he paid for it.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Harsh on Johnson who may not have the size but, hasn't done anything wrong. Crookes again I think is harsh, he was playing well before he got injured and then couldn't get back in. Since he has been back his form hasn't been as good but that can happen. He's not in the class of Briscoe/Lineham we just have to accept that. Galea for me was defending well but offering little in attack and then got injured. Maybe that was a year too far but club felt worth the risk as they wanted some experience and leadership in the pack.
Recruitment is always hit and miss.'"
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Be in no doubt that Adam Pearson bought Hull FC with the ultimate intention of selling it for more than he paid for it.
He knows that in order to do that he must first make the club more successful.'"
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Not sure if everybody has seen the video on [url=http://www.hullfc.com/article/31002/radford-excited-about-paleaaesina-impacthere[/url. I know it's only against semi-pro opposition but he certainly looks a handful.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Not sure if everybody has seen the video on [url=http://www.hullfc.com/article/31002/radford-excited-about-paleaaesina-impacthere[/url. I know it's only against semi-pro opposition but he certainly looks a handful.'"
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Feel sorry for those east hull lads having to tackle that.
Don't think he'll be up to much personally but one thing I do hope is that Radford has our forwards running with a bit of aggression. Since pretty much 2006 our forwards seem to jog into the opposition compared to how some of the opposition run
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Can you elaborate please?
Do you mean he's wrong that Pearson bought the club with the intention of selling it on for a profit or he's wrong that in order to do so the club must be successful? |
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he looks good does feka he will defo be a good impact prop running like that.
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He looks a lot more mobile than he used to, just by looking at his lateral movement on a couple of those runs. If he attracts 3 players each time and can get a quick play the ball then could be a good move.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Feel sorry for those east hull lads having to tackle that.
Don't think he'll be up to much personally but one thing I do hope is that Radford has our forwards running with a bit of aggression. Since pretty much 2006 our forwards seem to jog into the opposition compared to how some of the opposition run'"
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From that video he does have a good offload game. Surely if you get someone making those kind of runs you want him to be offloading as there are going to be gaps when you have 3/4 men around you
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on the run where he runs laterally handing off people, he has a great chance to put his centre away - hope he plays with his eyes open for us, looking for Houghton/Shaul/Miller on his shoulder
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"on the run where he runs laterally handing off people, he has a great chance to put his centre away - hope he plays with his eyes open for us, looking for Houghton/Shaul/Miller on his shoulder'"
Bit knitpicky there I think! There's still a defender outside n he's bringing the ball away from a kick off. If he starts forcing passes in such situations I'll be kicking off. Seen enough dumbass play like that all yr. Good hard fast carries n play of the balls with an odd selective offload will be fine by me!!! |
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Of course he's going to look good in a video package that we put together. Especially around the time season passes are due for renewal. I'm still unsure regarding his signing. Obviously I hope I eat my words.
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| Quote ="Awesome Aquinas"Of course he's going to look good in a video package that we put together. Especially around the time season passes are due for renewal. I'm still unsure regarding his signing. Obviously I hope I eat my words.'"
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"All of those runs are from the same game. Hardly a best of package.'"
From that game. Did we see all of his runs? Game-time? Defence, barring the one goal-line shot? |
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| Quote ="Awesome Aquinas"From that game. Did we see all of his runs? Game-time? Defence, barring the one goal-line shot?'"
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No offence to Feka but if huddersfield can sign kaufusi from London and he was obviously available why couldn't we at least try for him?
Bigger, younger, aggressive, would have been an ideal replacement and great impact prop and an improvement over feka.
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FFS, stop moaning. Kaufusi isn't a patch on Feka, if he was would he have been at London?
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| Quote ="TKOAH"FFS, stop moaning. Kaufusi isn't a patch on Feka, if he was would he have been at London?'"
FWIW I am not particularly disagreeing, but London > than Limaux or wherever Feka was playing. Your logic is wrong. |
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How do we know we didn't try and sign Kafausi? It would hardly be a shock if he chose Hudds over us, would it?
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| Quote ="Awesome Aquinas"From that game. Did we see all of his runs? Game-time? Defence, barring the one goal-line shot?'"
He also missed 37 tackles and conceded 12 penalties.
FFS, it's Feka, I wouldn't be surprised if that two minute clip [iwas[/i everything he did! |
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Can't say he's not running the ball in hard 
