go and read the Wigans chairman comments on Hock.....IT's not gonna happen.

Hock has three and a half years remaining on his contract at Wigan. He's thirty this year.
Wigan and Lenegan stood by Hock during his ban and were shaken by his request/demand to leave.
Rumours around Wigan that Widnes have an option for a second season.
Would Wigan want Tickle back? Not too sure about that.

Even if we wanted Hock, how would we go about making a swap deal for a player who will no longer be under contract with us and free to go wherever he likes without us having any say in the matter whatsoever?

i got slaughterd for saying id have hock over tickle.....other than a great kicker, tickle isnt as good as hock IMO

lets see what Hock achieves in his Widnes shirt shall we.

He did more than enough in his Wigan shirt last season to show he's a better player than Tickle. Whilst I rate Tickle highly, he's not quite in Hock's league.

McRae will be keeping his eye on the situation I'm sure

but would he "fit in" at Hull, and wouldn't, eventually, feel the need to go "home", I don't know what it is with Lancastrians, they're a delicate bunch when it comes to where they live.

Clutching at straws there M.

how am I?

'Would he fit in? Would he get homesick?' - desperate arguments there Mart.

Why wouldn't he 'fit in'?

Why would he get homesick? He's 30, unlikely (in this hypothetical situation) to get more than a 3/4-year deal at his age in what'll be his last big contract - why wouldn't he see it out? Tickle has been at Hull for what, 6 years now? Turner saw out his contract.

It's pure conjecture to suit whatever it is you have against him. It's almost as transparent as your McRae vendetta

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I don't have any issue with Hock, other than his totally unprofessional behaviour at Wigan and total lack of respect for all they did for him.

I don't have a vendetta against McRae, I just think he's useless and unnecessary.

Two issues then?



You started the McRae thread yesterday in a hope that people would say the same, that you could get some sort of 'McRae Out' mob going. Backfired tremendously.

Actually, I started that thread as it's a valid question, but apparently not one that the moderators of this forum feel is worth discussing.

It was more the users of the forum who didn't feel it worth discussing.

regardless of who he plays for Hock is one of the most powerful individual forwards in SL and possible RL full stop.
He will still play for England come the end of the season

understatement of the year award goes to ole barny

No doubt he will, I am not doubting his ability, but his professionalism is in question (so far as I am concerned), but I guess myself and the Wigan chairman are wrong.

stop being such a tender soul!!! no one has said your wrong and certainly not me however he is a world class player on the field regadless of how big a twaat he is off it and that was my point and i am sure you and your friend the chairman of Wigan RLFC agree with that

simple fact is, hock was wanted in the nrl...tickle can only watch it on tv...... 4 gb caps and 4 england caps aswell.... just a thought but did tickle get binned by the warriors because they knew that hock would be a better option afew years ago?? i dont honestly know the answer but that could be true...

If he was wanted that badly he'd be there now.

Hock and Tickle are completely different types of player who bring different things to a team. One is not a direct replacement for the other.

Beside all that, Lenaghan has already turned us down once and is on record as saying that he won't let Hock play against Wigan. So pointless thread is pointless.

Quite. The fact that it degenerated into petty insults is what stopped any discussion.

On topic, I would rather we looked at anyone other than Hock. Wigan won't sell him to us, although that might change, but the guy is a grade A idiot, and I wouldnt want him at our club, no matter how good he is.

I'd heard that Leneghan refused permission for him to speak to NRL clubs and that's why he spat his dummy out.

The MD of a company i speak to and deal with regularly whom knows the wigan guru personally said that is exactly what happened !! he had three offers on the table when Lenigan pulled the table cloth out from under him... I would be bitter too if it was me in Hocks place...

agreed Hock is a thick as a whale sandwich but he is still the best back rower in the UK at present IMO and would love him in B&W

If it came down to a straight choice, it would be Danny for me every day. I think he's got a better all-round game than Hock and certainly a better temperament.

FFS I hope we dont go anywhere near Hock the c0ck