What's he's saying is the hysteria at losing 3 games on a bounce wouldn't be as much if the specific games were spread out over the season, eg last season.

That is disgraceful !

We should look to win every game and I wager that other coaches don't have the same attitude.

Wait til we get to easter - he will say he's happy with 1 win out of the 2 games baecuse it is such a tough spell ! Well, it's the same for all clubs and quite a few win both games

What a loser

All stalling tactics from Agar. If he says we lost the same fixtures last season, he'll still say we finished in the playoffs. Year on year he should be aiming to better the previous one, however he's fallen for the standard which Hull FC have set their sights on - mediocrity!

I blame Agar!!!
Pretty much every thread is turned back on Agar!
I also blame Agar for the pot holes done Bricknell Ave too!

Correct.

Probably ill-advised to do so mind, and his delivery needs work. He's also still missing the point that it's not so much three losses as the performances that are the issue.

And the fact that in the Leeds game this season the circumstances all but [idemanded[/i a win. We had everything stacked in our favour and still couldn't register a victory.

Easter will be the same as every year. Even if we beat Rovers we'll then get spannered at Warrington and hear the same the old 'it takes a lot out of the players, emotionally and physically, and to ask them to back it up is asking too much' rubbish. Funny how the likes of Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Warrington don't have that problem isn't it?

No its not quite the same for all clubs
LAST YEAR
Good Friday......We played HKR.......Warrington played I believe Salford
Easter Monday..We played Warrington...HKR played Quins

I believe this years fixtures are identical and theres a big difference in the games intensity, I cant see a trip to Salford draining resources as much as a full on "one true derby"

We get by far the worst deal over Easter. Leeds play Bradford but then get an extra day's turnaround as they play on Thursday, then play Crusaders and Catalans on the Monday respectively. Wigan v Saints is on Friday, but they then play Wakey and Cas on the Monday respectively. Rovers get a home game against Harlequins.

Fully agree and why same fixtures each year at this time?
I know we want the DERBY but other game should verry.

Yep, the evidence on the pitch says it all, although he is not the most media savvy to say the least, I think too much is made of his interviews and the way he comes across generally, you don't need to talk a good game to be a successful coach, sadly Agar is not a successful coach either but that's what I take issue with, not what he says after the game. He had a point in what he was saying, but the fact is we should be improving on an average season last year, not clinging onto it.

That's the point I've tried to make a few times though, the two things aren't mutually exclusive.

If someone comes across as a bit thick but they are really good at what they do, then you say 'you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover'. But if someone comes across across as a bit thick and does their job pretty badly too, then isn't it fair enough to say 'maybe they're just a bit thick'?

true but at least you were at home 3 days later last year we had the long trip to london so even less recovery time after the derby. Looks like the rfl have just reversed the fixtures from easter this year which is fair enough

Are you related to Lee Radford?



Seriously, you're saying away at the team that finished 13th is as difficult as a home game to the team that finished 3rd and won back to back cups? Jog on.

Makes no difference when we play at wire as we'd lose anyway

I actually don't think Agar is thick, he seems to have an open mind and is definetely very knowledgeable about certain aspects of the game, that's maybe why he seems genuinely respected by many in the game, which makes it all the more baffling that he continuously gets it so wrong on the field without learning his lessons after three years of failing spectaculously with his tactics, negative approach, failing to sort out our dire kicking game, lack of a second phase and the complete hash he makes of the interchanges.

of course not but I was merely stating that having to travel to london 2 days after the derby and losing a days recovery of already such a short recovery time after a gruelling derby was hardly the big gift from the rugby league's fixture "computer" that you was making it out to be and incidently we beat Warrington at home last year so they were not the scariest of fixtures we faced. I'd agree we've done much better out of it than you this year though

I blame Blacklock!!



(For those newbies over the past couple of seasons who don't get it - forget it!)

I made the point about the Easter fixtures last year and it really stirred up our red and white friends. Their trip to Harlequins was almost a bye - they were a cricket score up at h-time. After the derby game, you don't want a top 2 or 3 club full stop, doesnt matter where it is. I don't believe there's any conspiracy here but we have by far the hardest Easter fixtures again.

As for Agar maybe making a fair/valid point - I simply don't buy that theory. I have never heard any coach/manager in RL or football cite a loss is easier to take because that's what our corresponding fixture the previous year yielded. He's spouting embarrassing drivel.

completely agree..agar should be sacked for that quuote and outlook alone...

To be fair to Agar, that's not what he meant. His point was that we lost the corresponding fixtures last year but still finished 6th, meaning that it's a long season and losing the same fixtures this year doesn't necessarily mean that our season is down the pan.

It's not a view I agree with and I think it was a mistake to bring it up, but it's not quite the lame excuse some have read it as.

His comments would suggest he will be happy with 6th then and is not looking for an improvement ?

I'd say his comments suggest he's aiming at the playoffs and not a specific position in them at this stage. Hence why I don't agree with his point.

Nor me

I personally think we've got the worst end of the deal, you've got warrington, we've got the league leaders..