Anything was better than Thorman

thought berro playd well considering imo he wasnt 100% fit

Ive said it before on here, both Houghton and Lee look better than Berro from a distribution point of view.

When he runs from dummy half he is very good, his normal distribution is awful at times, far too slow.

When Berro took to the field it looked like he could hardly walk never mind run !
Houghton was superior last night (Probably putting himself in the shop window !!!!)

Houghton needs to run at full pace rather than jog

Like full pace just like Berro !!

I'd hope Houghtons knees were in a better condition than berro's were last night!

Berro still look injured and shouldnt have been on the pitch.

Next game i'd like to see our play makers on the field being:

at 6 horney - doing it well on the quiet.
at 7 berro - looks better there than hooker
at 9 houghton - looking dangerous
at 13 tommy lee - puts a tackle in and can play abit

I'd like to see Tommy Lee start at 9 with houghton spelling him and Whiting at 13. Craig Hall back into the right centre. Agree with 6 and 7.

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But was the best 7 on the pitch when he moved there

Personally i think Houghton's distribution has improved alot.
Seem's to be much quicker than last season.

I was talking about Berrigan mate.

Considering we have him long term you'd think we'd take a bit more care of him, he could barely jog on to the pitch.

Like has already been said on here, put Berrigan at SH for the rest of the season and use Lee and Houghton at dummy half. Lee has shown real character for me, the criticism he received over the past couple of seasons was out of order (the kid NEVER stopped trying).

Deffo Houghton will not be with us in a few years. A bigger club will come in for him and for the sake of his future, he'll go.

IMO he's like James Roby, he'd be even better if he was playing in a team with some passion and direction!

Depends what scrum half we get next season mate. Think someone like Orford will turn us into that top 2 team and really see Houghton come into his own too. Cant be easy being a young hooker next to a crap scrum half.

Joey Johns in his pomp would struggle to have an impact at Hull! Given time our lack of structure will grind down the best of players, just look at Berrigan.

Dykes did pretty well when he managed to play, we looked a good side when he, Berrigan, Horne and Motu all played. Problem was I think it happened once or possibly twice.

A good SH link with Horne, Berro, Motu and Washy will make a world of difference to us.

It would be fantastic if we could finally sign a top SH like Orford but that alone would not make us a top two side. We really need to rid ourselves of some or preferably most of the below average trash that fills our pack each week.

Orford would need a pack that goes forward consistently and "looks after him" and that is not going to happen with Cusack, Dowes, Radford, King, Tickle.

I'm not holding my breath for Orford as we will probably be outbid by a smaller club with more ambition.

Yup, i'd even still be tempted to do the following:
1. Motu
3. Berrigan
6. Horne
7. Orford
9. Lee
13. Washy

bench - Houghton to rotate Lee

Plenty of flair and creativity there.

I believe we already have enough creativity in our squad to be doing a lot better then we are. Adding Orford (never happen in a month of Sundays) would improve us, of course it would. However his talents, like so many others in the squad, would be stifled thanks to a clueless gameplan.

Sorry paul

With Berro injured (?) and not able to play a full 80 isn't it better to put him at centre? Lee to 7 Houghton to 9 Whiting to 13.It would certainly stiffen up the defence in the middle and would solve one of our problem positions , centre. It would look a more experienced stronger back line and Berrigan may just be able to get a pass away to Calderwood. It would create space on the bench for another interchange instead of the current two extra hookers. It wouldn't be much prettier than now but there'd be the potential of more variation.