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| Quote ="WIZEB"He'll no doubt be laughing his cock off if he gets Wakey into the 8 at our expense.'"
I'm sure he would love to make the 8 at our expense. Gentle has actually gone on record saying he doesn't understand why we revert to the inside drop off. Well it's the default setting for a lot of our players that they probably fall in to when they lose their way with what they should be doing.
I wouldn't mind watching 5 drives and a kick at the moment if we were capable of doing it properly. Our defence would actually allow us to win more games than we are doing.
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| What's was Pearsons record with Hull city managers ? .
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| Well now I've had a sleep things still seem just as bad
I don't know if the tactics are too complex or not but I don't think complex anything is a good match for the majority of our players especially in view of having a young inexperienced half attempting to implement the game plan. It's been hard to make out any game plan for the average fan on the terraces for a while now. We just seem to be covered in a shroud of averageness - many players are playing below a standard that we think at least they are capable of.
Gentle showed great promise last year but this year simply hasn't been able to address the same problems that appear week in and week out. He'd better find something from somewhere by Sunday week otherwise it's as good as over this season. I would suggest a simple direct game plan around the ruck with a bit of close support running. I know the game is far more complicated than I realise but I'd sooner they did something repeatable and simple that we have a chance of completing rather than the now familiar disjointed, error-strewn offering that at times is just embarrassing.
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| Quote ="B0NES"What's was Pearsons record with Hull city managers ? .'"
He sacked Brain Little, Jan Molby and Phil Parkinson. Peter Taylor went under his own steam.
When Nicky Barmby went Pearson did too.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Well now I've had a sleep things still seem just as bad
I don't know if the tactics are too complex or not but I don't think complex anything is a good match for the majority of our players especially in view of having a young inexperienced half attempting to implement the game plan. It's been hard to make out any game plan for the average fan on the terraces for a while now. We just seem to be covered in a shroud of averageness - many players are playing below a standard that we think at least they are capable of.
Gentle showed great promise last year but this year simply hasn't been able to address the same problems that appear week in and week out. He'd better find something from somewhere by Sunday week otherwise it's as good as over this season. I would suggest a simple direct game plan around the ruck with a bit of close support running. I know the game is far more complicated than I realise but I'd sooner they did something repeatable and simple that we have a chance of completing rather than the now familiar disjointed, error-strewn offering that at times is just embarrassing.'"
Gentle has repeatedly made references this season to 'coming up with a game plan that suits the players we have'. This would tend to support the position that our game plans are too complex for our seemingly dense players to understand or execute reliably.
Well, Peter - maybe it's time to strip everything down to the basics and see if we can't at least get them right. I'd take a boring win right now.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Well, Peter - maybe it's time to strip everything down to the basics and see if we can't at least get them right. I'd take a boring win right now.'"
From where we are now I think this is our only chance of at least putting in a performance worthy of the level we're supposed to be playing at.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Look back at 2012.
Hull finish 6th with the 5th best defence and we finished 10th with the 6th best attack.
This year is pretty similar. You are 5th best defence we are 5th best attack (I am assuming we score more that 5 against Warrington which isn't a stretch).
Add them together and you have a side constantly pushing top 3/4 or higher.'"
I know, I've already said I agree
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| Quote ="WIZEB"If there's a complexity of structure from our coaching staff our players on the park are doing a pretty good job of disguising it.
I don't see any complexity, just see us presently struggling with the fundamental basics.'"
This^^^^^
Any suggestion we're over complicated is rubbish
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| Peter, you said hull will be bigger,faster and smarter than last season, and would also fitter and stronger and also you would have a trick up your sleeve for every opponent,well you had better stop wearing sleeveless shirts cos' it aint working, and finally stop reading agar's scripts cos' that is getting boring as well.Still as fc fans say "in gentle we trust".
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| Quote ="deslawson"Peter, you said hull will be bigger,faster and smarter than last season, and would also fitter and stronger and also you would have a trick up your sleeve for every opponent,well you had better stop wearing sleeveless shirts cos' it aint working, and finally stop reading agar's scripts cos' that is getting [uboring[/u as well.Still as fc fans say "in gentle we trust".'"
You'd fooking know all about that.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You'd fooking know all about that.'"
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| Quote ="WIZEB"You'd fooking know all about that.'"
Gentle's words not mine,so you do find your coaches interviews boring as well then. "In gentle we trust".
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| I don't think Gentle is a bad coach. Maybe he thought he'd be able to tackle FC but IMO, yes him being the coach must shoulder some of the blame. I Feel the players are letting him down.
Look at what happened in 2008.. We were losing until Kear was sacked then did a 13 game unbeaten run. Why did we play poorly 1 minute then all of a sudden come good??
People say we lack creativity, that's true but when you've got your creative players sat in the stands it's pretty hard. Yes we recruited Miller but we won't see the best of him until next year.
Also maybe it's not part of the problem but how much does Contract Talks affect players ability to play the game?? Honest question.
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| Quote ="heard1989"I don't think Gentle is a bad coach. Maybe he thought he'd be able to tackle FC but IMO, yes him being the coach must shoulder some of the blame. I Feel the players are letting him down.
Look at what happened in 2008.. We were losing until Kear was sacked then did a 13 game unbeaten run. Why did we play poorly 1 minute then all of a sudden come good??
People say we lack creativity, that's true but when you've got your creative players sat in the stands it's pretty hard. Yes we recruited Miller but we won't see the best of him until next year.
Also maybe it's not part of the problem but how much does Contract Talks affect players ability to play the game?? Honest question.'"
Why is everything always going to happen next year ?
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| Quote ="deslawson"Why is everything always going to happen next year ?'"
Maybe because he's still only young, travelled half way round the world leaving everything behind and been thrown into the deep end because of injuries..
However you don't need next year to jog on. Could take minutes
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| Only 3 minutes until the afternoon so they'd better hurry up
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| Quote ="Billy Batten"Remember where you heard it first.
Gentle & Mcrae gone by tomorrow.
Will get locked but this is nailed on.
Pearson is to act now.'"
I know its still "tomorrow" but has this happened yet?
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| Quote ="Chris28"I know its still "tomorrow" but has this happened yet?'"
"By tomorrow" meant by 23:59:59 yesterday.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"They've gone [size=5shopping[/size'"
To the toilet?
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"To the toilet?'"
Well they're certainly producing some S**t at the moment.
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| It's like the larvin "show me da money" thread we waited and posted on deadline threads. Ya can bet your ass just like we won't see larvins billions you will still have your current coaching set up
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| My patience has ran-out with Gentle. Last season I thought he did a good job considering the injuries we had, and the makeshift squad with players like Tony Martin making up the numbers.
but this season has been an absolute disaster, our worst since 2009 IMO, and not even a CC win should be allowed to cover up how bad the league campaign has been.
His signings have been awful , Arundle & Crooks aren't even making the team, Galea wasn't needed, Ellis has been average (but at least improving) Johnson is a decent squad player but not exactly one that sets Super League alight, only Holdsworth & Miller have been positive additions. Players like Aspinwall, Martin & McGoldrick were dismissed as being fill-in players last season, but we got a lot more out of them than this years signings!
the forwards are too light, and players we previously relied on heavily like Yeaman, Lynch & Whiting are another year older and haven't reached their usual standards.
our attack is not better than the Agar days, and at times it is even worse as we don't have the 'pass it to Manu and hope he knocks 3 players over' tactic to use anymore.
Gentle seems incapable of motivating his team to play 'run of the mill' SL games, we are capable of beating the likes of Wire, Leeds & Catalan....but then the week after lose to Widnes, draw with London etc
I think Pearson has to act soon or next years pass sales will be dire, the 'new dawn' hype has kept the pass sales going the last 2 years...but they've milked that for all its worth.
The only way to get passes up is to bring in a top-level coach who has a proven pedigree of winning things, and some genuine top-class international players (and by international I mean current Australia/New Zealand/England stars not someone who was on the bench for England Knights once
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"So you disagree with your own point then?'"
No. Our attack is pants and we should/would have won that past 4 league games has it been better. However, because we lost those games so narrowly, the brain farts our players made proved costly.
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