We can sack Agar and appoint MacLennan. Surely with Leeds' very poor start to the season he'll be getting the sack soon. Won't he........?

The fact he has just won back to back titles might buy him a little time and it's not like Agar has not had time, we are getting no better.

We did that at the end of last season. Now the same malaise seems to be creeping back in. Wonder what the common factor could be?

Please tell me you're not trying to compare McLennan's record as a coach with Agar's? Or Leeds' injury situation with ours?

I would give Agar the matches against Rovers, Wire and the two games against Leeds. But if he is to go I hope the club have already been looking for potential successors. We can't sack him and then start looking for a new coach. I don't believe Moore is the answer, unless the club are looking for the cheap option again. Look what happened the last time we appointed someone with no first grade coaching experience.

One thing is baffling me!!

We bring in Dennis Moore, who was second to Des Hasler at Manly,
who appeared in consecutive Grand Finals.

And yet............

We still play in the same manner as the last two seasons!!

Is Moore having any input into the side at all???

For the avoidance of doubt I was referring to Sharp so maybe I should have said second last time.

ALL down to tactics IMO !

Wasting 80% of tackles with one man barges doomed to failure, our dreadnought pack have made precious few breaks.

Most damning fact from Saturday was we didn't create a single clean break in 80 mins against dire opposition.

2 tries from kicks, 1 forward barge & one quick hands to the wing - we used to score good, well crafted tries but rarely under agar.

Players defo good enough - we should stroll top 4 & make a final.

Lynne for Hall?? Absolute joke, that choice on its own cost us 2 points.

Must must must go. Really confirm board intent on ripping off us fans if they think 3 years of dross is reasonable product.

i know look at wigan now with maguire in charge

The problem with sacking the coach in April is the chances of being able to recruit a top class replacement are slim. If the board do decide enough is enough within the next few weeks, we will probably require an interim coach to see us through to season's end. That coach will almost certainly be Moore and like you, I don't believe he is the answer either. If someone has reached the age of 50 without progressing beyond the status of assistent then its usually for a reason (ie other people have looked at him and decided he isn't head coach material).

Whether we like it or not, the probability is we are stuck with an Agar/Moore set-up until Sept/Oct. I'm not convinced sacking Agar now will achieve a great deal in the short-term. Once the decision had been made to stick with him for 2010, we effectively commited ourselves for the season. We've made our bed so lie in it, so to speak. Personally, I would stick with Agar for the season, unless it goes completely pear-shaped, but I hope the board are considering their options now, with discreet enquiries being made regarding possible choices.

Agar will see the season out, then he'll go on to the England job full time, he'll fail at that (as anyone would, because the players simply are not good enough), who we will get in I have no idea, but I doubt it will be the "household" name we want.

Everyone ready to see Radford captain England

there's no way he'll get the England job, he just can't!

But in saying that mcdermott can't get in either where the he'll do we go?

"A panel made up of RFL chief executive Nigel Wood, RFL Performance Director John Roberts, RFL Head of Player Development Barrie-Jon Mather and former Great Britain captain Paul Sculthorpe will make the final decision"

Would you trust them to organise a 7 year old's party at Big Fun, let alone an international coaching position?

That's a very good point!

I reckon he will get the easter games and the two cup games against Leeds. Didnt we sack Kear after losing to Bradford in the cup. Was that the same year we then had that run that took us to 2nd in the league. With his contract up at the end of the season the board are going to have to make a decision. If we where flying high in the league and the club announced an extention to his contract would that of made people happy. If we are mid table will this affect their decision.

The problem is that the CC is easily our best chance of success this season because even with a competent coach in charge of our squad, it would have been a big ask to win at OT. If we wait until we're out of the cup, the 2010 could be done and dusted for us.

I think that we will probably beat the dobbins TBH but, for me, that shouldn't have any bearing on this argument come Saturday morning. Although a sound beating at to our petty little neighbours at Craven Palace will probably send this site into overdrive.

wouldnt put that knackered donkey of a waster running a turnstile on match day, jesus he puffs and pants more than my german shepherds put together

Can I go on record now as saying there is no way Ellery Hanley would be a suitable alternative!

Better than what we have though thats for sure!!
and WAS sat with Kath and co at Salford!!
who knows,

He gets a decent write up by Longy in his book.

I always looked upon him as a top drawer coach to be honest !! what makes you so anti Hanley Standee?? not a dig mate

I'm guessing his record since taking over a top Saints team isnt great. There has to be a question mark about why the only team that gave him a chance were Donny.

I disagree he'd be hilarious! Offiah to be his assistant. No one would remember the games they'd just wait for the press confrences.

Last year we saw our forwards start to show signs of fatigue early in games simply because the injury situation meant they had to be overplayed. By round 6 effectively they were knackered. Tickle in particular had to play too many minutes because of his kicking duties. This year Agar rightly highlights this and says the extra depth will now allow us to rotate the forwards and keep them fresher in games, ie not have to play 80 mins. We've even got kicking options. So what do we do? Play Tickle and Fitz for the full 80! Having to have Houghton on the bench to spell Berrigan doesn't help our options but this is Agars team and his strategy. If you play forwards like Fitz and Tickle for 80 mins week in week out they will lose their effectiveness and start to make mistakes. That's often when other players are having to do too much during their spells to cover and end up missing tackles etc. There was an excuse last year for poor bench management this year their ain't.

This is the crux of the matter.

Same demise of attitude at this point in the last 2 seasons regardless of injuries.

Even Fitz, O'Meley and Long showed signs of the illness on Saturday. Is it the inflexibility of our one and only game plan that starts to stifle and frustrate players about now? Or rumours of spats between the coaches (also happened about this time last year with Agar and Sharp)? Or indignation amongst the players regarding team selection choices? Or simply a case of underestimation of the opposition by the senior players?

All of the above?

Whatever, the rot seems to set in about this time into the season every season. Cue the start of sightings of players in drinking establishments which also coincides with this onset of apathy.