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| Quote ="bonaire"When i see deficiencies in players or in the coach i will comment as this is what discussion boards are about.
Yeaman is very old ground but was stealing a living from the club and should have been released but kept on too long by Radford very similar to the Mini and Manu situation,and then was then given a role at the club which he had no experience at all.There is no room for sentiment in sport or Business.
Connor has thrown his dummy out and been moved around doesnt help his game.You will see in my messages i want to see him back in the centre with Ratu even though he would make a much better full back than Shaul.
Griffin i have criticised as i dont think he is a good centre.he is now 29,has never been anywhere near an England call up so i cant be the only one who doesnt rate him as a centre. He has had a decent season but i have said previously several times he would make a better second row only for others on here to scoff at the idea yet Radford will move him into the second row next season so i think i am correct on this one.
I like jamie Shaul but just feel he is not kicking on in the full back position.he should be working his socks off on timing linking into the line and finding a pass but has stagnated.He also loses concentration at times around the play the ball and is not alert to an offload of loose ball.
Would be very happy if we could have a full back like Evalds
You have to wonder what coaches like Watson would be able to do with the budget and backing that Radford has but regretfully Radford wont be going anywhere else soon'"
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"You played well on Saturday, and Hastings had a field day, no problem.
But it’s Salford who needs a new half I believe next season, this year I believe it’s 2-1 in our favour, and we’re content with our double Lance Todd trophy winner. If we can’t win the big prize, then I hope Salford can, I say that with respect, and without the need or class to attack any of your players.'"
The Salford fan was merely giving his opinion on Sneyd that's all, no malice or animosity towards him, our club or any other fan and then you come out with that, rubbing it in his face about victories and Lance Todd trophy wins.
It was you who was the aggressor and needs to learn some respect and class, not the Salford guy.
No need to be so defensive, protective and petty just because his opinion of Sneyd differs to yours.
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| Quote ="Salford red all over"Hastings is by far the best player in super league (should really be going back to the NRL) he's magical the glue that holds everything together and dictates all the plays demands 100% from himself and everyone else, non negotiable, He's a winner and the single reason Wigan will sweep the board next season hopefully doing it for us first.
I reckon with your signings next season if you had signed JH you would be in with a shout of the big prize.
Now please don't take this the wrong way it's not meant to offend, but of all the things I've just said about Jacko look who you've got in the same position. (I don't want to diss the lad I like him he came through our system) but in RL terms Hull are a big club and when we sold him to you he was our fourth choice half back that's why we loaned him out to Cas for the season before, to date he's still your first choice halfback. I remember Koukash rubbing his hands when you came in with a big cheque for him he couldn't believe his luck. Sneyd is seven he should be running the show tbh other than his very good kicking game I fail to see what else he offers, and without a running organising 7 it doesn't matter how good your team is if no one is pulling the strings. actually he reminds me of another player that played for us that little spiffing chap playing for Leeds he will never worry any quality.
Maybe you need someone like Catalans signing Jimmy Maloney and then it might come together as it seems Radders is your man as long as Pearson is there !!'"
I have to disagree about Sneyd, as long as he has a runner with him he is a very good halfback, he actually has improved his passing game this year and has set up far more trys this year with that part of his game. Also a big game player, as he has shown on many many occasions, he isn't in Hastings league, but who is, SL are fortunate to have him and he won't be here much longer. I wouldn't swap Sneyd for many other halfs in the league (If any, as we could have him for the 10 years compared to the likes of Austin or Hastings).
Probably in our top 3 players this year, but behind a beaten pack he will struggle, even then he can pull out a bit of magic like the 2016 cup final to get us back in the game.
Well done on Saturday and the season, just hope ypu can keep the it going next year, when some players move on.
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| Thankfully I was still enjoying the last day of my holiday so didn't have to witness yet another spineless capitulation by this so called team. Thank god we won't have the likes of green, litten, hadley manu and mini serving up dross like that again next year
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Thankfully I was still enjoying the last day of my holiday so didn't have to witness yet another spineless capitulation by this so called team. Thank god we won't have the likes of green, litten, hadley manu and mini serving up dross like that again next year'"
And to be fair we didn't on Saturday either and that didn't make a blind bit of difference. Its a concern that these performances will still be happening no matter what the 17 is next year as non of the issues seem to be getting rectified in terms other than personnel.
We still such poor ball control, poor discipline, lack of desire to meet the opposition in defence from the ptb, static in attack, very little running on to ball (though we did it a few times and scored, then didn't bother) our last play options are poor the majority of the time, rely on the kick to the corner by Sneyd way too much so its too easy to defend as the opposition know whats coming.
Admittedly since Kelly has been out at least Sneyd has been running and taking the line more.
Yet again there's a piece in the HDM from DH pretty much saying the rhetoric and regurgitated flannel from the past season or two after these diabolical performances.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"The Salford fan was merely giving his opinion on Sneyd that's all, no malice or animosity towards him, our club or any other fan and then you come out with that, rubbing it in his face about victories and Lance Todd trophy wins.
It was you who was the aggressor and needs to learn some respect and class, not the Salford guy.
No need to be so defensive, protective and petty just because his opinion of Sneyd differs to yours.'"
Stop pinching my lines, you little stalker you
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Thankfully I was still enjoying the last day of my holiday so didn't have to witness yet another spineless capitulation by this so called team. Thank god we won't have the likes of green, litten, hadley manu and mini serving up dross like that again next year'"
none of them played jake
It was others serving up the dross
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| Quote ="bonaire"none of them played jake
It was others serving up the dross'"
Erm, that was my point.
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| When was the last time sneyd had a top class game for us and how many times a season does he do it?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"When was the last time sneyd had a top class game for us and how many times a season does he do it?'"
I’m more worried about shaul’s form, 6 tries, how many assists, not many I bet, poor return from fb. Sneyds the least of our worries, Just needs kelly back alongside him
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"I’m more worried about shaul’s form, 6 tries, how many assists, not many I bet, poor return from fb. Sneyds the least of our worries, Just needs kelly back alongside him'"
Agreed. How many games has kelly played since the beginning of 2018?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Agreed. How many games has kelly played since the beginning of 2018?'"
Not enough, get rid of kelly, cash in on jake, and splash the cash on a quality 6. Sorted
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Agreed. How many games has kelly played since the beginning of 2018?'"
He's played 35 out of 61.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Looking at the way Carlos went off, he may be a doubt.'"
Harsh on Lane for me, Kelly 6 Connor and Griffin centre. If Griffin was going to play 2nd row it would be Mini to miss out for me.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"He's played 35 out of 61.'"
I'm surprised it's that many. Seemed to miss all of last year and most of this. We certainly miss him when he doesn't play but also has been obviously carrying an injury and not been at his best for many games
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| Quote ="Ellam"Harsh on Lane for me, Kelly 6 Connor and Griffin centre. If Griffin was going to play 2nd row it would be Mini to miss out for me.'"
What was harsh on Lane?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"When was the last time sneyd had a top class game for us and how many times a season does he do it?'"
Wakefield away, 11th Aug.
1 try, 1 assist, 2 40/20's.
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"I’m more worried about shaul’s form, 6 tries, how many assists, not many I bet, poor return from fb. Sneyds the least of our worries, Just needs kelly back alongside him'"
Not knocking Shaul, but does anybody else think Connor Wynne should be given a chance? I know he has been banned for punching, but at least the lad has heart.
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| Quote ="barton baird"Not knocking Shaul, but does anybody else think Connor Wynne should be given a chance? I know he has been banned for punching, but at least the lad has heart.'"
I like shaul and in the right system would be more effective, but is form is bad, Wynne deserves a shot to see if he can improve the performance of the team from fb
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Wakefield away, 11th Aug.
1 try, 1 assist, 2 40/20's.'"
1 try and 1 assist is a top class game for a half back? No wonder the game is in such dire straits
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"1 try and 1 assist is a top class game for a half back? No wonder the game is in such dire straits'"
Whilst you are correct on the state of the game at present, the game at Wakey was very poor, but make no mistake without Sneyds try, and his two 40/20s the result could have been reversed.
He was gash against Salford.
But Wigan and Warrington made sure his influence was minimal, the tactics used against him in the Wigan game were talked about by Radders.
For Sneyd to be at his best, he needs our pack to be firing, and unfortunately this is not happening. Probably the same reason Jake is also looking ineffective as well. In answer to your question Sneyd last top class game was probably in the demolition of rovers at the KC. When the Hull pack got the measure for once. Although his magnificent effort in France was also a match winning performance.
The state of the game we can’t do much about, but strengthen the pack, which we have done “hopefully”, will give our halves more room, to exhibit the talents we know they have.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"1 try and 1 assist is a top class game for a half back? No wonder the game is in such dire straits'"
As well you know its not just about scoring or assisting with a try. And as you are well aware, there is another half back which can also contribute.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"As well you know its not just about scoring or assisting with a try. [uAnd as you are well aware, there is another half back which can also contribute.'" [/u
Or not as the case may be. I think Sneyd was pretty much on his own.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"[/u
Or not as the case may be. I think Sneyd was pretty much on his own.'"
Connor helped set up two trys against Wakey.
Very few halfbacks can play when your pack gets dominated and you drop as much ball as we have the last few games, that includes the likes of Austin and Hastings.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Connor helped set up two trys against Wakey.
Very few halfbacks can play when your pack gets dominated and you drop as much ball as we have the last few games, that includes the likes of Austin and Hastings.'"
Have you noticed how much ball is being dropped by players in S/L.
Previously everyone was blaming handling errors on the Rhino ball but this season its just as bad.
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