You think Ellis and Mini just went through the motions ? I thought they were pretty good. If players aren't 100% behind the cause then they're robbing me and you of our hard earned. I hope you're wrong on that particular point you make. Certainly if it is the case that within 3 games we've gone from a confident, together bunch to a rabble then that would be some change in what - 3 weeks ?

My theory is more that our back line isn't up to the job, with the exception of Shaul and possibly Carlos they're miles off. When Pryce is fit he's easily our most creative back but alas he rarely is fit, even during the games he plays. Michaels and Logan can't defend high kicks to save their lives, or defend well at all in the case of Logan. Naughton often flaps when trying to catch the ball and Tala is good with the ball (particularly out of his own half) but defensively gets exposed positionally and for pace. Fonua looked the weakest of the imports from what I saw of him but not seen enough yet to be sure. Basically any team that's any good that attacks our edges will prosper. That's my theory based on what I watch every week. I don't know about team spirit as I'm not in the team.

I went to Widnes as you probably did. For 20 mins we were dominant but failed to take chances. Had we done so it could have been very different. We then witnessed a total collapse orchestrated by a player of the type we so badly need. Did we decide we weren't happy with coach and each other half way through the first half in that game ? Not sure - I saw Houghton bollocking everyone as they went off at half time. Maybe he was just telling everyone how Radford was.

Can't see Radford lasting much longer unless we put a decent winning run together and stay in the top 6 through the next few weeks. Whatever the coach scenario we need to strengthen our back line. That's how I see it.

Did people really think after 3 losses. Of which 1 was a particularly bad performance we'd just turn on form like a tap? Now also its all radford? Imagine if we did a cas last night? Be utter meltdown. And powell is god apparently!!!
I wonder if some have been watching team sports for more than 2 minutes. It's how it goes at times. We're out of form. Got some issues but geez

Well I'm glad you can find something to smile about, you should be more concerned how poor your team is than how bad we were considering you were at home with your expensive imports and Wakefield had 6 players missing, bottom 4 for your lot squire on last nights showing.

Ah bless!! Championship for you methinks.

Aw bless

You'll have play better than you did last night yourselves in the middle 8's

We can play a damn sight better for sure,looking at your team,you won't,2 poor halfbacks who can't create nowt and just a poor all round team barring your no11.the only thing we have in common is 2 crap coaches

After the last 3 weeks im just going to enjoy the win. Defence has being a major concern for me so was pleased to see that do well REGARDLESS of who we are playing. We were in positions to win both the Wigan and Cas games do dont think we are as bad as some think on here.

Where not as good as some think and cert not as bad as some of the drama queens would have us all believe . I said 5/6 is where I see us before season started and won't be far of that IMO.

I predicted 6th at start of season and think we are on course for that.

Not the best game of rugby but we got the 2 points, bags of improvement from now needed, wakeys game plan to slow down & frustrate the opposition which nearly worked last night, especially with that 2@ in the middle he once again made it a game about the officials, but we are back on the horse with a win although it was lacklustred.

Supporter celebrates and praises his/her team for winning game. Disgraceful behaviour! What are they thinking?!

A quote taken out of context to support your own eternal optimistic view. Well done.
If you're going to try have someone over at least get it right

It was not the winning under discussion but the praising of our defence and our opposing views on the subject.

Do try keep up.

Anyone that knows my posts on here will know that I can be quite critical of the team and am far from optimistic most of the time. However I also believe in praising the team too.

Let's not forget that we won last night. And yet there's far too many people on here still not happy. We should be celebrating the win, not picking it to pieces by criticising the defence for only conceding one try.

Don't try to be positive Doc you will get shot down

You keep proving the point I've made mate. Cheers,

Cool.

And kicking

I noticed.

I said on Friday after the match that it wasn't our best performance but that it wasn't our worst performance either.

What people need to remember is that we was coming off the back of three straight defeats, the last of which was a hammering. I don't think we was ever going to go from being hammered one week to hammering a team ourselves the week after. I think the players will have been nervous not to make it four defeats in a row and decided on playing safety first rugby designed to get us the win. They delivered.

This is exactly what I said pre season. We've spent stupid amounts of money on the back row leaving our back line woefully short on quality.

I do sometimes wonder how the atmosphere in the stadium affects the players. The whole atmosphere on Friday was nervous and subdued from the start with audible chuntering and moaning all through the game and nervous was exactly the sort of game we had.
I'm in no way blaming the fans btw. Its something of a chicken and egg situation. A good atmosphere helps a good performance I feel but you need a good performance to get a good atmosphere, at the KC anyway.

It was caused by the staff/team from the previous week, I think everybody knew we would beat Wakefield but it was the manner the team set out to achieve this, I know they've worked on defence all week, I've said before wakeys plan is to frustrate & slow down the opposition, really poor plan but they've nothing else, the players seem to be lacking confidence maybe it's the narrow defeats & the embarrassing display at Widnes, they will grow in confidence it's still early in the season yet, so for me the 2 points each week is all that matters, I know they will be addressing a lot in training we will come good we have a very good squad with experience, we all have bad days at work.

Had similar thoughts about the atmosphere last year after hearing something about the players not enjoying playing at the KC. They do need the fans behind them to give them a boost to deliver a good performance but it has gotten to a point now where the only way the crowd will be fully behind them is by giving us a good performance. As you say, chicken and egg.

You forgot the middle 8s as well

What like last year?

Despite being poor, we are still 6th and are very likely to finish in the top 8, that might not still be good enough, but us as fans have ambition and just finishing in the top 8 isn't good enough, whilst if you finish 11th you have had a good season.

You have a couple of good young players, like Johnston, who will do well once he moves to Huddersfield.

6th atm because of your ability to drag other sides down to your level, the only thing your likely to get his another overdose of disappointment from your overpriced overpaid and over here bunch of misfits




Your not as daft as you sound, your quite right Huddersfield will probably take him, the difference between them and you is, they'll step in early and get him for next to nowt, whereas you'd sooner wait and pay 100k for him