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| People who are so bothered about his injury here is a quiz, find the link....
Nathan Fien, Lance Hohaia, Andrew Johns, David Shillington, Trevor Thurling, Joel Monaghan, Josh Miller, Michael Ennis, Trevor Thurling (2nd), Ashley Harrison, Wes Naiqama, Brent Tate, Darren Lockyer, Shane Tronc, Shannon McDonnell, William Zillman, Will Chambers, Willie Mason, Steve Turner, Brett Seymour, William Zillman (2nd), Ben MacDougall, Adam Woolnough, Steve Michaels, James Aubusson, Brent Tate (2nd),
and thats only the "top" players upto and including '09 you could and Campese, Vatuvai, Tate (3rd) and many others to that list.
Wouldn't want any of those playing for us would we?
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| I can answer!!!!
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| Quote ="Kosh"Are you serious?
FFS man - how were we supposed to [iplan[/i for Berro wanting to go home early and Turner being a prat? Should we have not bothered to sign Gleeson just because we hadn't [iplanned [/ito do so?
If that's your definition of a lack of forward planning then there really is no point in carrying on this discussion.'"
Kosh Berro probably went home early due to being sick of being moved around all the time due to our crazy half back release/appointment decisions.
Turner...god only knows where the club feels his position is....Is Prat a technical expression Kosh?
Gleeson appointment is at a least consistent in releasing players with alleged indiscipline issues to only appoint new players with alleged indiscipline issues.
I think we have been incredibly fortunate for phelps and Obst to come along...but they aren't an example of planning....more desperation.
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| Quote ="Edenmain"People who are so bothered about his injury here is a quiz, find the link....
Nathan Fien, Lance Hohaia, Andrew Johns, David Shillington, Trevor Thurling, Joel Monaghan, Josh Miller, Michael Ennis, Trevor Thurling (2nd), Ashley Harrison, Wes Naiqama, Brent Tate, Darren Lockyer, Shane Tronc, Shannon McDonnell, William Zillman, Will Chambers, Willie Mason, Steve Turner, Brett Seymour, William Zillman (2nd), Ben MacDougall, Adam Woolnough, Steve Michaels, James Aubusson, Brent Tate (2nd),
and thats only the "top" players upto and including '09 you could and Campese, Vatuvai, Tate (3rd) and many others to that list.
Wouldn't want any of those playing for us would we?'"
None of them have been photographed performing a sexual act with a dog except one of them?
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"I dont make mistakes as far a 'forward Planning' is concerned. I dont want to get into the argument about how long I have been a supporter - and yes Hull FC have been my passion for so long you dont really want to know. The Club I admire more than any other are ST Helens - they have constantly been at the top in all my years. They dont need to 'Forward Plan' it just happens. Would really have loved to be like them - our success years are so few but I would have liked in all these years more than the odd Yorkshire Cup win and 2 Challenge Cup wins. Anyway maybe next year!'"
I never mentioned how long you might have been a supporter. Why would I?
Do you really think that the continuous success enjoyed by Saints 'just happens'?
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| Heremaia starting at hooker this morning for the Warriors. Not sure if it's been mentioned.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Heremaia starting at hooker this morning for the Warriors. Not sure if it's been mentioned.'"
is it on Sky?
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"Kosh Berro probably went home early due to being sick of being moved around all the time due to our crazy half back release/appointment decisions.
Turner...god only knows where the club feels his position is....Is Prat a technical expression Kosh?
Gleeson appointment is at a least consistent in releasing players with alleged indiscipline issues to only appoint new players with alleged indiscipline issues.
I think we have been incredibly fortunate for phelps and Obst to come along...but they aren't an example of planning....more desperation.'"
Berro was moved around due to injury problems. And you're just guessing at why he left in any case.
I meant Tansey rather than Turner. My typo.
How many times has Gleeson been in breach of the Saints discipline code? Do you not think he's worth the risk?
I didn't say that these signing were an example of forward planning FFS. The point is that they are a reaction to a situation that couldn't have been planned for. You seem to be struggling with this concept.
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| Quote ="Standee"is it on Sky?'"
I'm not sure, don't have Sky but Bet365 have it streaming on their website. Have to have £5 in an account, but the quality is pretty good.
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| It's not on 433 although McKinnon is playing in Wests v Newcastle on monday morning.
Wests v NZ is on 433 next week.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Berro was moved around due to injury problems. And you're just guessing at why he left in any case.
I meant Tansey rather than Turner. My typo.
How many times has Gleeson been in breach of the Saints discipline code? Do you not think he's worth the risk?
I didn't say that these signing were an example of forward planning FFS. The point is that they are a reaction to a situation that couldn't have been planned for. You seem to be struggling with this concept.'"
Nope not struggling with it buddy
Not seen stated anywhere that Berro went due to injury? He continues to play?
The Tansey issue was hardly a surprise ,a player who had alleged disciplinary issues before he arrived had the same here. But then the Tansey situation came about predominately because the club decided to release a full back and use a hooker in that position who became injured. Tanseys recruitment itself was a desperate appointment due to a lack of succession planning at FB.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Berro was moved around due to injury problems. And you're just guessing at why he left in any case.
I meant Tansey rather than Turner. My typo.
How many times has Gleeson been in breach of the Saints discipline code? Do you not think he's worth the risk?
I didn't say that these signing were an example of forward planning FFS. The point is that they are a reaction to a situation that couldn't have been planned for. You seem to be struggling with this concept.'"
Our forward planning for the off season was to bring in cover for half back which we didn't do until one fell in our lap. If wakey weren't in financial difficulties we'd have been watching horne and washy/turner in the halfs again this season.
Everyone knew berrigan was leaving weeks before the end of last season so it's hardly an excuse.
Anyway, I don't care how good or bad their forward planning is, the execution of it is abysmal
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| Quote ="Lostyorkie"Nope not struggling with it buddy
Not seen stated anywhere that Berro went due to injury? He continues to play?
The Tansey issue was hardly a surprise ,a player who had alleged disciplinary issues before he arrived had the same here. But then the Tansey situation came about predominately because the club decided to release a full back and use a hooker in that position who became injured. Tanseys recruitment itself was a desperate appointment due to a lack of succession planning at FB.'"
Think Kosh meant he had to be played in differing positions to cover for injuries within the squad. Apologies if I'm wrong Kosh.
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| Quote ="Edenmain"People who are so bothered about his injury here is a quiz, find the link....
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and thats only the "top" players upto and including '09 you could and Campese, Vatuvai, Tate (3rd) and many others to that list.
Wouldn't want any of those playing for us would we?'"
Cars have been spotted with their names on the number plates at de Vries over the years.
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| Quote ="JMR"There is a world of difference on the effect a debilitating leg injury can have on the performance of a back compared to a forward, particularly when they are on the wrong side of 30.
The world and his wife (with the possible exception of Sheldon) will tell you that McKinnon's pace has 'gone' since his knee was shot.'"
We need an out and out full back something we haven't had since Briscoe and Mckinnon is Agars preference for next year as long as he is solid, organises the defence and joins the line well then his lack of pace won't be a factor in my opinion and his age isn't even a concern for me.
Whiting isn't blessed with pace but plenty of people on here think he goes well at full back.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Anyway, I don't care how good or bad their forward planning is, the execution of it is abysmal'"
A point I've made myself. I'm not arguing for the fact that the BOD have a good plan.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I never mentioned how long you might have been a supporter. Why would I?
Do you really think that the continuous success enjoyed by Saints 'just happens'?
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"
Yes'"
So why doesn't it just happen for everybody else? Are Saints just lucky?
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| Quote ="Kosh"So why doesn't it just happen for everybody else? Are Saints just lucky?'"
I really dont know - do you - it cant be Luck. Every sport has its top teams we I am afraid are not part of that.
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| Quote ="kathy kirk"I really dont know - do you - it cant be Luck.'"
It's hard work, good financial support, and great planning over a period of several decades. It doesn't 'just happen' without effort or skill.
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| Looks an even more pointless signing now.
Long shouldn't be kept on.
We really need an overseas number 7 for next year.
If we use our last spot on a 7 that means we will have to find English replacements for Fitz and lauaki.
Signing an overseas hooker just doesn't make sense.
Unless we get a decent 7 another season of averagness awaits.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Looks an even more pointless signing now.
Long shouldn't be kept on.
We really need an overseas number 7 for next year.
If we use our last spot on a 7 that means we will have to find English replacements for Fitz and lauaki.
Signing an overseas hooker just doesn't make sense.
Unless we get a decent 7 another season of averagness awaits.'"
obst will be our 1st choice 7 next year
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"obst will be our 1st choice 7 next year'"
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"obst will be our 1st choice 7 next year'"
I think so 2
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