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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Is there still prize money for winning/runner up of the GF this year.'"
For years I can’t recall seeing a breakdown of prize money for the play offs or the Challenge Cup.
Do the remember the League Leaders get any prize money or just the Hub Cap?
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| Quote ="Rugby Raider"For years I can’t recall seeing a breakdown of prize money for the play offs or the Challenge Cup.
Do the remember the League Leaders get any prize money or just the Hub Cap?'"
I was really thinking of the absence of supporters, and will the prize money still be the same, I think I recall the Grand final winners received £100,000 with the losers getting £50,000.
Can’t recall the CCup winners/losers split, but without supporters paying, and pre paid tickets presumably refunded, have we the resources to pay.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"I was really thinking of the absence of supporters, and will the prize money still be the same, I think I recall the Grand final winners received £100,000 with the losers getting £50,000.
Can’t recall the CCup winners/losers split, but without supporters paying, and pre paid tickets presumably refunded, have we the resources to pay.'"
IIRC, prize money is determined by league positions, and league positions are determined by success in the playoffs.
e.g. If Hull somehow miraculously win the GF, we will be considered 1st, Saints 2nd (losing GFists), Wigan 3rd (highest ranked semi loser), Leeds 4th, Warrington 5th (highest ranking quarter final loser) and Catalans 6th (lowest ranked QF loser).
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Apart from Shaul and Kelly are we right to assume everyone is available for consideration? Connor obviously had his knee iced up, plus Jones recovering from Covid but we should also see Griffin back. Based on original plan for the Derby that was disrupted due to Griff's covid protocol reckon we'll go
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Must be a big question over Jones obviously.'"
Moving Connor from full back, might as well give them the game.
He is having his best performances there and has made the biggest impact on team performance from there. He makes little to no impact at stand off, it just doesn't suit him.
Connor at FB and anyone at SO would be better than moving Connor from FB.
Personally, I'd have Tui there, with an option to move Houghton there if needed.
Griffin and Fonua at centre could go well, but gives an option to swap Tui in if necessary.
But please God, don't move Connor from FB. He's our best full back.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Moving Connor from full back, might as well give them the game.
He is having his best performances there and has made the biggest impact on team performance from there. He makes little to no impact at stand off, it just doesn't suit him.
Connor at FB and anyone at SO would be better than moving Connor from FB.
Personally, I'd have Tui there, with an option to move Houghton there if needed.
Griffin and Fonua at centre could go well, but gives an option to swap Tui in if necessary.
But please God, don't move Connor from FB. He's our best full back.'"
Connor FB Carlos SO, I like it.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"IIRC, prize money is determined by league positions, and league positions are determined by success in the playoffs.
e.g. If Hull somehow miraculously win the GF, we will be considered 1st, Saints 2nd (losing GFists), Wigan 3rd (highest ranked semi loser), Leeds 4th, Warrington 5th (highest ranking quarter final loser) and Catalans 6th (lowest ranked QF loser).'"
Thank you Wellsy13 I didn’t know this.
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| Pleased its Warrington.Comfortable win for us
Wigan will be a lot more difficult
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| Quote ="bonaire"Pleased its Warrington.Comfortable win for us'"
Aggregate score against them this year is 75-16. We are 33/1 to win the comp, Warrington 6/1.
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| had a cheeky fiver on them at 40/1 at corals, long shot but a bit of fun,
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Aggregate score against them this year is 75-16. We are 33/1 to win the comp, Warrington 6/1.'"
we are playing well and with confidence.
Warrington also have players missing
As i said comfortable win for us
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| Quote ="bonaire"we are playing well and with confidence.
Warrington also have players missing
As i said comfortable win for us'"
We haven't beaten a team in the top 5 since February, right? Form against bottom clubs is nice but not always a great predictor against ones with marquee players, and 3 years since a play off win. Would be amazed if it were a comfortable win.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We haven't beaten a team in the top 5 since February, right? Form against bottom clubs is nice but not always a great predictor against ones with marquee players, and 3 years since a play off win. Would be amazed if it were a comfortable win.'"
A Sneyd special one pointer will do, even a golden point win, come on yu ullaaa
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| If you raise the bar high enough (eg comfortable win), then there's plenty of room to whinge and moan if we don't quite manage it.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We haven't beaten a team in the top 5 since February, right? Form against bottom clubs is nice but not always a great predictor against ones with marquee players, and 3 years since a play off win. Would be amazed if it were a comfortable win.'"
Whilst I don't agree with Bonaire's comfortable win, I can't agree with your tedious pessimism.
It's knock out rugby, we seem to have found a little bit of form and are ourselves paying over the salary cap with the likes of Fonua and Ma'u and our other quality recruitment.
Let's not down play how expensive and how good our squad actually is, it's just been mismanaged.
Whilst not expecting a victory I'll remain optimistic that we turn up and have a dig for the full 80 minutes.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"Whilst I don't agree with Bonaire's comfortable win, I can't agree with your tedious pessimism.
It's knock out rugby, we seem to have found a little bit of form and are ourselves paying over the salary cap with the likes of Fonua and Ma'u and our other quality recruitment.
Let's not down play how expensive and how good our squad actually is, it's just been mismanaged.
Whilst not expecting a victory I'll remain optimistic that we turn up and have a dig for the full 80 minutes.'"
I agree, I hope we turn up and have a dig for 80 minutes, and would be disappointed if we don't put everything into it. But the point stands. Expecting a comfortable win when we've only beaten Leeds in the top 6 and our aggregate score against Warrington is 16-75 this year makes little sense to me. I'll check the match odds if I can find them.
Edit - Paddy Power have a comfortable Hull win (13+) 6/1.
Hopefully Connor is fit to play and our forwards get stuck in.
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| Quote ="ccs"If you raise the bar high enough (eg comfortable win), then there's plenty of room to whinge and moan if we don't quite manage it.'"
And on the flip side, you be that pessimistic that you can make excuses for every poor performance and say you expected it anyway because of blah blah blah. I personally don’t think we’ll beat Warrington, but I do expect to give them a very good game
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I agree, I hope we turn up and have a dig for 80 minutes, and would be disappointed if we don't put everything into it. But the point stands. Expecting a comfortable win when we've only beaten Leeds in the top 6 and our aggregate score against Warrington is 16-75 this year makes little sense to me. I'll check the match odds if I can find them.
Edit - Paddy Power have a comfortable Hull win (13+) 6/1.
Hopefully Connor is fit to play and our forwards get stuck in.'"
I agree a comfortable win is out the question and Wolves are favourites for a reason but we have a quality team put together at some expense and if it fires and fires well then the game is not a forgone conclusion.
A good performance is all I ask irrespective of the result.
I hope Last keeps Connor at fb, puts Griffin into the centres and is brave enough to stick Mcnamara in the halves, instead of Griffin to fb.
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"And on the flip side, you be that pessimistic that you can make excuses for every poor performance and say you expected it anyway because of blah blah blah. I personally don’t think we’ll beat Warrington, but I do expect to give them a very good game'"
Remind me when I've been pessimistic before a game.
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| Quote ="ccs"Remind me when I've been pessimistic before a game.'"
Wasn’t talking about you
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| I'm optimistic under Last
Last time they steam roller we us down the middle, with Taylor back and with Sao, Satae and Bowden all fit and in form I don't think itl be as straight forward, plus Savelio and Mau.
Tough team Warrington, but with abit of luck you never know, itl definatley be an arm wrestle, I just think Austin will put them in better field position , as Sneyds been poor, hopefully Connors on fire and isn't side tracked by his ongoing spats with Hill
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| If we lose, we lose. If we win, then on goes the journey. Pre-lockdown this season was bound for nothing, so appearing in the playoffs, as haphazard as they may be, is still a success. Warrington have held the victory sign over us in recent games but at the moment there is no reason why we can't match them on the night. Let's see what Thursday brings...
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| Think we must leave Conner at full back where he seems to be more effective at the moment. He could turn into a 6 in the future but certainly has a lot to do to convince the majority of fans.
I would put McNamara at 6 with the job of putting Austin under pressure and restricting his kicking game which I think is the only way we can win the game. Macs defence is pretty good and he is quick off the line. We have the forwards and outside backs to get the job done but Sneed needs to up his game considerably which he has done in the past in big games. Hopeful!!!!!!!
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| not sure he will play mac, hes done ok but in a big game might be exposed, for me start connor/ tuime at 6, griffin to FB,
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| anything can happen in a cuptie,but to be fair hull have yet to beat anyone of note these last few weeks..will have to raise game to win,but its not out of question.
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