yet people class J Smith, Prescott and Swain as legends

Raynor has every right to be in that bracket, either they all are or none are

Not in my book he doesn't.

And I rated him as a player.

don't you have to put 100% effort in week in week out to get anywhere near that bracket!!!

Dont think anyobe could fault Raynors effort every time he played for Hull.

One of the hardest working players.

Like other have said great player but not a legend, I would class Jason Smith and certainly Swain as Hull Legends in my time. Prescott has become more to do with the work he has done for RL in the last few years.

Aye, that be right. My daughter was born in '92, I knew it was memorable for summat

Jason Smith is not a legend.

He was here for 3 seasons, and what did he, or we actually achieve?

I don't see any of them as legends.

To me a legend is someone who's influence goes above and beyond what happens on the pitch. The only 2 Hull FC legends IMO are Jack Harrison and Johnny Whiteley

The term 'legend' is used too often in sport these days and has been devalued.

Particularly by mods in their user names when referring to journey men aussies

He was the best player to wear the Hull shirt for a very long time. Incidentally, how long were Topliss or Sterling here?

Topliss was at Hull 4 years, in that time the team reached 6 finals and won the Challenge Cup.

Peter Sterling was at Hull for 2 years, and in that time the team reached the Challenge Cup Final, only to lose out to Wigan in 1985.

so Sullivan isnt a legend then, or Norton, Drake etc etc on the list of about 50 legends I could think of

??

The term Legend is as noted overused sometimes but there have been a few at FC since the end of the war that would fit into that class nicely

So only one actual trophy win, then? And he was playing in what was arguably a better team, too.



And no trophies for Sterling.

Jason Smith is certainly worthy of the same status as these two. If you think Sterlo and Toppo are legends (not saying you do, by the way), then Smith is as well. He might have been unlucky with injuries and, in his first season, wasn't surrounded by quality, but when he was fit he was absolutely amazing.

I'd say Smith was a legendary player just not an FC legend imo of course.

I think a look in the history books is required here. David Topliss captain from 81 to 85. In that time we won all but the premiership.
Sterlo certainly won at least the Yorkshire cup. Which whilst by today's standard would have ben classed as a minor trophy I am sure. Every cup then was a big deal.

i think people are just jumping on the bandwagon a bit.people seem to forget his performances over the years.he played exc' well for hull over a number of years,gaining international honours along the way.

Yorkshire cup was a big event then I assure you!!

There's legends, favourites and unsung heroes:

Legends - the likes of Sullivan, Knocker
Favourites - the Mick Cranes and Motus of this world
Unsung heroes - Tony Grimaldi, McMenemy and the like

if i sat down and really thought about it,i could come up with around 100+ names from when i 1st saw an fc match(1982),for those 3 categories!!!

Yeah I know - keeping it to two a piece was tough. I really wanted to put Chris Davidson in the favourites because I used to really liked the way he played the game - but I don't know if he was actually any good because I was so young that I probably wasn't fit to judge.... unlike now.... hem hem

I certainly know that. Every cup victory was celebrated in style in our household. Especially the Sterlo YC final in which he ran the show. I believe Mal Maninga was the star of the Lancashire Cup final that year. Legends of the game playing in finals in the UK. Not only that but the beeb covered them as well generating national coverage which we would kill for today.

your not wrong!!
you know I miss Eddie waring and co you know, at least the coverage was funny as well

Legend in the true meaning of the word is someone who is spoken about decades after they have been gone, Whitely, Norton,Bunting can easily fit in this category.