Hopefully Hodgson can do a bit of wheeling and dealing in the close season

To be fair I think next season is going to be a difficult one for the club. I think the promises of a better tomorrow have unfortunately gone on for far too long. I would say a good number of us just have a feeling of apathy now in regards to the club due to too many false dawns. We had a great opportunity in 2016 to kick on but we didn’t we sat back as a club, were sentimental and undid all the good work that got us to where we were in 2016.

There are too many players the club needs to move on that are still under contract which is exactly where we were at the start of AP’s ownership. If the squad we have is genuinely at the top end of the SL in terms of salary cap then as a club they have mismanaged this completely and allowed too much mediocrity on too much money.

That for me is the most disappointing thing in that we as a club just don’t seem to learn anything from previous mistakes, we just repeat them.

I am not sure what AP or BH can or will do to reinvigorate or galvanise the support for next season. The pandemic has changed the dynamics of things for so many as it is without the poor repeated failure to deliver anything close to challenge yet again. Before anyone jumps on me and says the covid and injuries have impacted us then I agree it probably has but it’s affected everyone and every club not just Hull FC but the same story come season end is the same and has been now for too long.

Regardless of previous shocking form.

Hull v Leeds provided a fabulous entertaining spectacle, I wasn’t expecting to win, but we certainly gave everything in this game, why not in other matches who knows.

But we were cruelly dealt with by our friend Ben Thaler, even after Hicks sent the decision up as a try, Ben found numerous angles to explore a way of denying us, and he reversed the try decision, which I found difficult to understand.

A heartbreaking controversial decision which ultimately left us on our knees at the end.

This game was more like the Hull FC I have been brought up on, superb effort, and leaving nothing out on the park.

Leeds had the edge with their two genuine hookers, and their young starlets Broadbent, and Newman proved deadly strike.

But the bitter taste of being unfairly treated by a video referee, is proving difficult to forget.

Certainly not had much luck this season, particularly covid and video ref decisions.

Wouldnt surprise me if Adam Pearson put the club up for sale
We are being left behind now in this new era of R/L by teams with faster,fitter and stronger playing squads who unlike us have young players stepping in and making an impact.
We all know and understand that the club has too many under achieving senior players still under contract and this is what is likely to hold the club back next season as its unlikely finance is available to pay off the likes of Sneyd,Fonua and Taylor and then adding the replacements we need.
Taylor in my opinion is finished as a top front row due to his injuries and Sneyd is holding back our ball in hand attacking play.
Not sure Pearson will be able to give Hodgson what he needs for next season and we may then see a disruption in the coaching set up.
The effort was there last night but the more i watch the game you can see how slow we are as a team bunching again in the middle instead of moving the ball wide to make some yardage out of defence.
Jamie shaul was blowing like a beached whale in the second half yet he kept McNamara on the bench unused.
Whats the point of having him on the bench and what does it say to the player who played as first choice six in the previous games.
Would have been better to just leave him out with an explanation why

Buy a pass, help the cause.

I guess signing Kelly, Griffin and Connor was a step in the wrong direction.

Little chance of that.

I'd say it was more 2018/19 recruitment cycle that spelled the end. Kept Mini and Manu probably a season too long. Not replacing Ellis or Watts too.

Damned near impossible to replace Elliis. Once in a generation leader.

I'll give you Ellis, but we didn't even try. I think we brought in Paea, Miloudi and Faraimo in 18.

Wigan brought back Bateman as O’Loughlins replacement

I honestly don’t understand the bagging of Masi. He literally hasn’t played all season, won’t be a big earner, and was in the England Knights squad before his injuries started.

If he played this year and was crap, I’d get it. I think it’s harsh.

Not so easy now, new landlords increasing the rent, and huge losses.

He hasn't kicked on in 4 yrs. It's a harsh business. Wasn't exactly pulling up trees before his injuries. If we can't get 2 props. I would keep him over Bowden though. Best regards Sneyds dad

When we signed Kelly it was a bit of gamble at the time as we know due to the issues surrounding him at the time with Rovers. Griffin came from a club that had struggled for a while and only just escaped relegation in MPG and Connor was a young raw talent. In all fairness to them at the time they weren't players you'd class as top drawer. Even to this day some still bag Griff and Connor.

Ellis we were never going to be able to replace as he is a once in a generation player. We let go our best and SL's best forward at the time and never really replaced him though.

We also signed a season or so later players such as Langtree, Nzoungou, Miloudi, Dawson-Jones etc.

Since the signings of Pritchard, Manu, Fonua and Tuimavave our signings compared to the players that have left I would certainly argue have not improved us more that we've stood still or gone backwards a little. SInce 2016 the game has changed and moved on yet we stuck to to same mould and didn't move or adapt with the times. Even now we still try and flog an aging Houghton for 80mins every game which offers us very little and we don't even have a player capable of replacing him or even just to improving things in a game.

Since 2016 season we have fallen further behind to clubs at the top and been caught up and past by a number of clubs that were below us.

Spot on Chris 71. Nail on the head.

2016 was an inspired year for recruitment, in retrospect. Motu Tony no doubt helped in that.

Connor looks inspired now, but many questioned it at the time. For every Connor there’s been a Miloudi which didn’t quite work out.

Something needs to change now in my opinion, even if we have to take a step back for a year or two. This malaise has gone on too long now.

You live in cuckoo land , Leeds did not have a half back when Lui went off . If Connor had played for Leeds it would have been an avalanche

It was a knock on nothing poor about the decision as a neutral.

Fair assessment I thought, three matches played, one apiece, and a golden point decider.

Sent up as a try mate, those decisions usually go with the refs call.

Not sure why ploinerrhino seesm to think you live in cuckoo land as it was definitely a fair assessment of the game. We tried to hold out in the 2nd half rather than play for the win and not for the first time it bit us. It was two poor teams with a host of players missing for each side yet had that try not been overuled by Thaler then it put the game further away from Leeds.

It was put up as a try and there was nothing in the replays for Thaler to over rule the onfield decision if anything it showed the ball going backwards. Unless you can clearly say 100% and without doubt it went forward? Which you can't as there is no conclusive evidence on the replays so the onfield decision should have stood, but its not the first time Thaler has over ruled on field decisions for us without conclusive evidence.

Thaler doesn't like FC fact.

Prove me wrong

Look at the Derby, absolute farce, even my mates/family who are Rovers couldnt believe the swift try was disallowed, how does he explain away these absolutely diabolical decisions, you can't

Spot on. Also, while not necessarily regarding recruitment, but who’s idea was it to let Litton go ? He changed the game for Rovers on Sunday when he went on !