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| Quote ="jersey mark"And you dont think they do video sessions on the game, and mistakes open your blinkered eyes Agar is not great but neither is his squad and they have to take some responsabilities'"
Wow, they watch a video. We can all do that. I want to know what action Agar is taking to remedy the issue of individual errors because whatever he is doing it doesnt seem to be working.
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| Quote ="forevafaithful"i really couldnt give a toss wether you and everybody else thinks i`m the dimmest poster on the forum,i give my opinion and thats that if you dont like what i post dont read it or reply to it.......just dont bore me to death with the same old inane bull5hit week in week out with the agar out crap............oh and thanx for your reply that made me feel soooooooo much better that i actually got one
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I have just noticed you Sig, i don't suppose you could offer Agar a job so he can go on gardening leave???
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| [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/Agar-FC-players-raise-game/article-2452355-detail/article.htmlAgar spouts tripe, as per usual when FC lose[/url
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| Quote ="Standee"[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/Agar-FC-players-raise-game/article-2452355-detail/article.htmlAgar spouts tripe, as per usual when FC lose[/url'"
Getting to be a standard response, yet we never see any changes except when enforced by injuries.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Getting to be a standard response, yet we never see any changes except when enforced by injuries.'"
More or less everything he says after defeats is spot on in terms of what happened. Snag is, as you say, he seems unable to address the issues. Most of our quality players were sat behind the dugout last night, but the 17 on the field, to a man, should have been sweating blood for 80 mins. Not all were unfortunately and the coach is responsible for that IMO.
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| Quote ="Standee"[url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/Agar-FC-players-raise-game/article-2452355-detail/article.htmlAgar spouts tripe, as per usual when FC lose[/url'"
He's right, we did have a number of blokes who need to perform a lot better, as we have had on too many occasions this year. The scariest thing though, is that that number is/has been far too close to 17 to attribute it to just a few bad eggs.
In general on last night, I went into the game expecting is to be soundly beaten. What bugged me about it was the manner in which we were totally outclassed and out-enthused, yet again.
Another thing I question: The game was gone by half time, and a a complete bust shortly after. So why did Nicklas have to wait so long to get on? Why not give the lad a bit of game time to gather experience? He certainly wouldn't have let us down any more than most last night.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"=#0000FFMore or less everything he says after defeats is spot on in terms of what happened. Snag is, as you say, he seems unable to address the issues. Most of our quality players were sat behind the dugout last night, but the 17 on the field, to a man, should have been sweating blood for 80 mins. Not all were unfortunately and the coach is responsible for that IMO.'"
Peter Sharp was exactly the same. Very good analysts, questionable motivators?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"More or less everything he says after defeats is spot on in terms of what happened. Snag is, as you say, he seems unable to address the issues. Most of our quality players were sat behind the dugout last night, but the 17 on the field, to a man, should have been sweating blood for 80 mins. Not all were unfortunately and the coach is responsible for that IMO.'"
This is the root of the problem for me, and we never make any progress on addressing it. It's like Groundhog Day - the same problems with the same analysis and the same lack of ideas on getting things right. Depressing stuff.
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| Quote ="Kosh"This is the root of the problem for me, and we never make any progress on addressing it. It's like Groundhog Day - the same problems with the same analysis and the same lack of ideas on getting things right. Depressing stuff.'"
Maybe just maybe he had to go with the tactics he did because he knows the players that came in arent good enough....im not defending Agar,you know my feelings on him,Just that the likes of Hall,Burnett arent upto to scratch and you can add Washbrook,Turner to that group.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Maybe just maybe he had to go with the tactics he did because he knows the players that came in arent good enough....im not defending Agar,you know my feelings on him,Just that the likes of Hall,Burnett arent upto to scratch and you can add Washbrook,Turner to that group.'"
The tactics should be simple and tight with the team we had out you're dead right. But where was the intensity needed to carry out those tactics ? We were soft again as we always are when we get hammered.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Peter Sharp was exactly the same. Very good analysts, questionable motivators?'"
Looking at the continual poor performances error wise you'd probably have to say poor coach too. Things are not being rectified.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Looking at the continual poor performances error wise you'd probably have to say poor coach too. Things are not being rectified.'"
At least with Sharp his teams where hard to beat and the defence was very good....motivator not so much...Agars defence is woeful and he could put a glass eye to sleep motivatinol wise
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| Quote ="fc baldy"At least with Sharp his teams where hard to beat and the defence was very good....motivator not so much...Agars defence is woeful and he could put a glass eye to sleep motivatinol wise'"
Genuine nice bloke though. Seems to be the only thing keeping him in a job imo.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Genuine nice bloke though. Seems to be the only thing keeping him in a job imo.'"
So was Sharp and he had more about him than Agar and he got sacked for a damn sight less
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Genuine nice bloke though. Seems to be the only thing keeping him in a job imo.'"
Whats that old saying "Nice guys finish last", sort of rings true doesn't it. Could he be being too nice with the players, trying to be a mate rather than a coach? It could explain why the players seem so amiable towards him.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So was Sharp and he had more about him than Agar and he got sacked for a damn sight less'"
Agree with that 100%
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| Quote ="hullbg"Whats that old saying "Nice guys finish last", sort of rings true doesn't it. Could he be being too nice with the players, trying to be a mate rather than a coach? It could explain why the players seem so amiable towards him.'"
Well they all do rave about him. Maybe thats because they get away with murder.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Looking at the continual poor performances error wise you'd probably have to say poor coach too. Things are not being rectified.'"
As I said in the Agar contract thread, I think our last 3 head coaches have seemed good coaches as part of a set-up, just not the men who should be in charge. They've all talked a good game but shown questionable motivational and/or decision-making skills to say the least.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"As I said in the Agar contract thread, I think our last 3 head coaches have seemed good coaches as part of a set-up, just not the men who should be in charge. They've all talked a good game but shown questionable motivational and/or decision-making skills to say the least.'"
Options if Agar stays?
1. Bring in club psychologist to ensure players are properly motivated and prepared mentally for the game
2. Bring in coaches that can work to rectify players individual problems
3. Bring in a leadership development specialist to work with Agar and his team in order to maximise their performance in the right ways.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Options if Agar stays?
1. Bring in club psychologist to ensure players are properly motivated and prepared mentally for the game
2. Bring in coaches that can work to rectify players individual problems
3. Bring in a leadership development specialist to work with Agar and his team in order to maximise their performance in the right ways.'"
The thing is, how much more does that leave Agar with than just picking the team and recruitment? May as well save even more money and hire someone off this board.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The thing is, how much more does that leave Agar with than just picking the team and recruitment? '"
Exactly my point really. A top coach should do all of those things and he blatantly doesnt. The club are making a rod for their own back by been adamant they'll stick with him and by extending his contract. He's soo lacking it's unbelievable.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Oh the b0llox thread returns....what a surprise
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Never gone away for me!
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Oh the b0llox thread returns....what a surprise
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It was still there last week, and has been pretty much a constant all season long.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Exactly my point really. A top coach should do all of those things and he blatantly doesnt. The club are making a rod for their own back by been adamant they'll stick with him and by extending his contract. He's soo lacking it's unbelievable.'"
Hard to disagree (but plenty are working hard to).
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