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| According to our coach Last there was no outstanding Hull fc player in last nights game and was very disappointed with the first half.
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| Quote ="bonaire"According to our coach Last there was no outstanding Hull fc player in last nights game and was very disappointed with the first half.
The only player he commented on was Satae who he said gave it a dig'"
.... and Fash and Lane.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It was last year. He wasn't 'crap' at first. He's only played eleven times for the club. Very unlucky with injuries but he's always been a quality player.
You're just embarrassed at being found again.'"
Eleven games ago he wasn't fit to lace Greenwood's boots and now he is quality. Credit to Radford and Last for transforming him I say.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"https://twitter.com/hullfcofficial/status/1304436782713516033?s=19
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Oh dear, I thought Club Hull was the reason we're falling off the edge of a cliff.
However, Bonny's reply to Seb's centuries old post did make me chuckle....
Quote ="bonaire"Give him some time Seb and i am certain you will change your opinion.
he is a real athlete big strong runner and still young.
If he fits into our club culture he will be a very good signing
I have been critical of Radford but i like the nucleus of young forwards we now have at the club.
Savelio,Levy,Bienek,Masi,Jordan Lane and Jack Brown.
If we recruit well for next season with the overseas spots we will have then we could be a force once again with real strength and depth.'"
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| Well just like we was lucky last night Saints have just been lucky tonight and Hull KR have been unlucky
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Wasn't expexting a bite from a Rovers fan (if you are one) but I'll take it,'"
Problem here is that the Rovers fan is right
As a club were built up all wrong for this new faster throw it about rugby league - under Last were basically the same team as under Radford - Rovers look a much better side than we do and under no relegation we should be trying to change not just being boring as like usual
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| the manner of our loses over the last few years(kr) has been very hard to watch, were still losing now but i find it enjoyable even watching us get beat with the effort and enterprise we show, so fc although a very strong squad, seem as if they cant be d some of the time when they play the big boys
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| Ah the joy of the gallant loser, he battles bravely, his principles crystal, we shall climb from the base, rejoicing our style, our verve, we look down, our studs are still fixed, lowly, detached. No fear, we will rise, we will rise.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Problem here is that the Rovers fan is right
As a club were built up all wrong for this new faster throw it about rugby league - under Last were basically the same team as under Radford - Rovers look a much better side than we do and under no relegation we should be trying to change not just being boring as love like usual'"
Depends whether the "new faster throw it about" ninesesque structure with six again etc endures beyond the next season. Whilst all sides aspire to throw the ball around the constraints of relegation pressure and the need to win on heavy pitches in February/March plus a likely revert to old rules will mean teams again will need to use big packs and conservative tactics to grind wins out at times. The top teams of course can do both.
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| Whilst the game had become quite formulaic in recent times, and I thought I was losing interest in the game because of it, I now realise this touch rugby throw it anywhere rugby is worse. It’s the equivalent of a sugar rush. Initially enjoyable but ultimately unsatisfying.
Admittedly the Dobbins look adventurous, but it’s not sustainable, and they’ll crash and burn at some point. To be fair though you would rather watch them than us as an outsider, under the games present guise.
At the end of the day, we’re just playing a series of exhibition games to protect the TV deal.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Whilst the game had become quite formulaic in recent times, and I thought I was losing interest in the game because of it, I now realise this touch rugby throw it anywhere rugby is worse. It’s the equivalent of a sugar rush. Initially enjoyable but ultimately unsatisfying.
Admittedly the Dobbins look adventurous, but it’s not sustainable, and they’ll crash and burn at some point. To be fair though you would rather watch them than us as an outsider, under the games present guise.
At the end of the day, we’re just playing a series of exhibition games to protect the TV deal.'"
Indeed.
I'm of course a little biased but [isome[/i people might say that their 'throw it about a bit" policy isn't working, given the fact they are bottom with two wins from ten.
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| I agree, they are playing some great rugby, but that's easy when you are playing in a nothing to lose game against the like of Saints or Wigan, be interested to see if they have the mentality to tough out a game against the likes of Hudds or Wakey. Unless you start winning regularly the fans will get fed up of losing despite throwing the ball about.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Indeed.
I'm of course a little biased but [isome[/i people might say that their 'throw it about a bit" policy isn't working, given the fact they are bottom with two wins from ten.'"
You could also argue that not having one of the stronger squads, TS is trying to play to their tactical strengths.
They are entertaining to watch, beat Wigan and narrowly lost to Saints.
Could we say any of the above about us currently?
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| Their throw it about style is bringing them closer to other teams with better squads. If they didnt do this theyed be getting hammered 50-0 every week so it is working. Imagine if we could do this too with (on paper) a much superior team - we'd be magnificent. But no were still playing boring forward driven percentage rugby - were syill clueless with ball in hand most of the time
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| ...probably why only saints and wigan have scored more points than us.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I agree, they are playing some great rugby, but that's easy when you are playing in a nothing to lose game against the like of Saints or Wigan, be interested to see if they have the mentality to tough out a game against the likes of Hudds or Wakey. Unless you start winning regularly the fans will get fed up of losing despite throwing the ball about.'"
if you support a club why would fans get fed up if their team is giving its all and playing to its strengths thats all any fan can ask,quite simply finances usually dictate where the silverwear goes in superleague with odd exception , make the most of it while you have a decent coach salford a good example, its the bigger clubs with the bigger expectations whos fans get fed up a lot earlier than ours
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| Quote ="supersport"if you support a club why would fans get fed up if their team is giving its all and playing to its strengths thats all any fan can ask,quite simply finances usually dictate where the silverwear goes in superleague with odd exception , make the most of it while you have a decent coach salford a good example, its the bigger clubs with the bigger expectations whos fans get fed up a lot earlier than ours'"
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Their throw it about style is bringing them closer to other teams with better squads. If they didnt do this theyed be getting hammered 50-0 every week so it is working. Imagine if we could do this too with (on paper) a much superior team - we'd be magnificent. But no were still playing boring forward driven percentage rugby - were syill clueless with ball in hand most of the time'"
I'm not even sure our players are capable of playing expansive rugby, they've had drudgery of one out tactics instilled in them for so long. Maybe the shackles of a coach that is tied to the previous incumbent need to be broken for us to have any chance of adapting to the way the sport is being played.
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| What would people honestly prefer watching in this no jeopardy league?
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"You could also argue that not having one of the stronger squads, TS is trying to play to their tactical strengths.
They are entertaining to watch, beat Wigan and narrowly lost to Saints.
Could we say any of the above about us currently?'"
Well they were also well beaten by Saints a couple of weeks ago, hammered by Warrington in August and pre-lockdown were comfortably beaten by Wigan, Cas and Huddersfield as well as suffering a fifty point hammering by a Leeds we'd outplayed a fortnight before. Apart from Wigan last week their only win was on the opening weekend against Wakefield who are the other club with only two wins this season.
But, hey, yes, entertaining rugby
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Well they were also well beaten by Saints a couple of weeks ago, hammered by Warrington in August and pre-lockdown were comfortably beaten by Wigan, Cas and Huddersfield as well as suffering a fifty point hammering by a Leeds we'd outplayed a fortnight before. Apart from Wigan last week their only win was on the opening weekend against Wakefield who are the other club with only two wins this season.
But, hey, yes, entertaining rugby
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Well I'll let you crow if it makes you feel better.
Our season is hardly one to boast about either though is it.
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| Quote ="Bombed Out"Well I'll let you crow if it makes you feel better.
Our season is hardly one to boast about either though is it.'"
I'm not boasting about our season. I've done pretty much the opposite on a regular basis.
What I'm saying is that all these Hull supporters waxing lyrical about the beautiful rugby league that Rovers are apparently playing should remember that they are bottom of the league and by the season's end will probably have only avoided relegation because of Toronto's withdrawal.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"I'm not boasting about our season. I've done pretty much the opposite on a regular basis.
What I'm saying is that all these Hull supporters waxing lyrical about the beautiful rugby league that Rovers are apparently playing should remember that they are bottom of the league and by the season's end will probably have only avoided relegation because of Toronto's withdrawal.'"
The difference is we are supposed to have a squad assembled to challenge for trophies. Whereas theirs wouldn't stand out in the championship. They arent going to be a playoff team because the players just arent good enough. But Smith has them all working hard, expressing themselves and enjoying their rugby. We are doing none of those things.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Was it at Saints or Wigans current level?
No it wasnt - it was a million miles away and whilst people like yourself are happy with us to just muddle on scraping wins against teams like Wakefield[size=150 others like myself are not happy[/size with it. Beginning of this year Pearson reckoned we might win the GF this year with his heavy investment etc - were currently a bottom half of the table side and performances are decent in small patches, hopeless at times but generally a long way away from being GF winning quality'"
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