Just an alternative list (of all clubs) which shows Shaul out of contract, without the speculation.

Right. I posted that list in another thread. But as I said he isn't in the list that the Hull Daily Mail posted later on. So ...

3rd choice at Hull too, behind Balmforth who you have watched for 25 minutes right?

Unless we can sign better and a few above are not better than Houghton, both in attack and defence.

He gets another year, but should have pressure from Balmforth and Lovodua, shouldn't be playing 80 minutes.

Our best player by a mile against catalan was Lane or mau

They said Houghton 2 assists which was just laughable.. it was a bit of a brilliance by lane and a barnstorming run by satae

Great players like Lovodua, Carlos, mau, Lane get my respect cause they are our best performing players

Houghton passing a ball from dummy half and us scoring isn't out playing anyone

Did I say Houghton was out best player against Catalans?

"A great game" so probably

I can't wait until Lovodua go's to hooker or 3/4 years time when Houghton leaves/retires people would of realised how little Houghton brought to the attack

It's frustrating cause with a decent hooker who could attack makes a huge difference

Powell has not outperformed Houghton this season.
McIlorum is a bog standard defensive hooker, everything you deride Houghton for.
McShane is hopelessly out of form this season.
Litten left because he's not good enough to play in front of Houghton.

So your doubtful if Houghton is better than any of them

And you skipped the rest to obviously 100% agree about the others

Josh Hodgson wasn't "good enough" apparently we kept houghton instead what a decision that turned out eh



you trying to say Houghton is better than Hodgson ..... Wow

Hodgson has hardly played in the last couple of years, and fans where highly critical of him when playing for England for hindering our attack due to him wanting to take a couple of steps before releasing the ball, slowing the attack down.

You keep going on about Lovodua, but he's played half a game at hooker all year, yet your comparing him to Houghton? Delusional

Lovodua has played one 40 minute spell at hooker, so yes Houghton has been better this season, give it a rest. Hodgson didn’t show what he was capable of until he left the Dobbins for Oz. The training and game time he got there made him the player he became. FC were right to release both him and Litten at the time. Danny was simply better. Age is having an effect but he can still do 80 minutes at a very high level.

Your first mistake was letting Josh Hodgson go, who went on to have a very good career at a higher level. Mistake repeated by allowing Litten to move on, who from what i have seen has come on leaps and bounds at HKR culminating in his selection for England Knights yesterday. Hull FC supporters obviously see more of Danny Houghton than other RL fans and although he has been a good and loyal player over the past decade he is certainly a 'yesterday man'..

Don’t let England Knights selection fool you.

Everyone gets selected for them at some point



Litten is quick off the mark but makes too many errors to be a top class hooker. He wasn’t going to get much game time with us so it was best for all concerned if he moved on.

If Wynne is allowed to leave we'll regret it big time.

Hardly surprising Josh Hodgson left, he never played hooker for the 1st team, and managed just 2 bench spots in total in 2009. Berrigan (who left at the end of 2010), Houghton and Tommy Lee were ahead of him.

I've never understood the phrase "letting .... go", when a player is out of contract he can do whatever he wants.

While I understand the disappointment people would have should it come down to money RE Wynne, however the club really only has itself to blame.

For quite a while now the club has given out sentimental contracts to players who realistically are been paid more than they are worth. We could now be paying the price and losing out on the homegrown talent we seem to be aspiring towards. It's a short career, if a club is coming in and offering a better wage you can't blame players for having their heads turned. I am however reasonably confident that he will stay.

We have an option for another year, so what's the issue?

Last shot...

Hull Kingston Rovers have signed hooker Josh Hodgson from Hull FC on a two-year deal from the start of 2010.
The 19-year-old has been playing for Hull’s reserve team and has made two first-team appearances.
Hodgson will be Rovers’ second-choice hooker after Ben Fisher as Daniel Fitzhenry is returning to Australia at the end of the season.
“I was offered a chance to stay at Hull FC but I decided to go Rovers because I think I’ll have an opportunity to play more first-team rugby,” said Hodgson.
“It’s been a really tough decision and an emotional one and at Hull they’ve got a lot of good young hookers and a lot of good back rowers as well, so I think there’s more chance of breaking into the first team at Rovers.”

Where as Houghton hasn't even got close to getting an England cap

Cause Lovodua would offer miles more than Houghton does

And that's what I'm trying to get across Houghton and Taylor are definitely sentimental now

Both nowhere near the best in their positions ( Houghton never has ) Taylor spends far too much time in the stands last 3 years

Based on?

If Lovodua was English would he be the England hooker? I'd say it's too early to tell. It would certainly be controversial if he was picked ahead of the players who get picked ahead of Mint after only playing 40 minutes at hooker in Superleague.

I give Taylor benefit of the doubt for now, prior his injury last season he was starting to really show some form in his game, he has been solid since his return.

Houghton I agree, Hooker is such an important position and I couldn't name a good SL side he would get in. I don't get any pleasure in bashing one of our own but I do think there are many better 9's out there

You obviously didn’t bother reading my previous post.

When Litten has won two CC finals and man of steel comeback and I'll agree.

If KR are willing to offer the likes of Hadley, Litten, Abdull and Hodgson lots more money than us then let them go, not all about the cash sometimes, Litten done ok not amazing, Hadley been injured virtually every season, Abdull done well last season but needs to keep backing it up.