Saints have coote,roby and percival missing,sadly injuries are part of the game.

I agree. But there back ups are better.

Our discipline is back to 2019 levels.
The coaching staff have to get a grip of this

What a dumb team

Not the end of the world,, really poor 2nd half though, although Saints were good. Some positive signs in the first half. Need some bodies back and Kelly at 6.

Saints still the benchmark.

Big test next week to bounce back.

Biggest concern is injuries, Bowden, Ratu, Carlos and Houghton.

Losing by 14 to the best team in the league isn't a particularly too bad in my opinion. It's just the manner of the defeat conceding 4 trys in 10 minutes which makes it feel a much worse loss.

We sounded stupid with and without the ball in the second half.

Think the worst of it today wasn't actually the defeat, but the inhuries.

On to the next one. Wigan away

Not a disaster, but, same old same old, can’t deal with adversity, players coming in not good enough. Are we to only judge this squad when it’s fully fit, like some on here think, not to down beat, but I really hope we ain’t in for another season of excuses

Not been today but saw the bench and expected something like this. Who's available for next week from this list of current absentees?
Faraimo
Naulago
Tuimavave
Kelly
Satae - no
Houghton
Ma'u
Savelio
Bowden
Cator

Saints were dominant all the game so 14 points doesnt reflect their dominance in the match.
Our discipline again was poor,with penalties backing them up the field too often.
Sneyds early kicking from hand was again poor and Connor put two kicks directly out of play,the last started the Saints run of tries.
At least Albo will be back next week at the expense of the sulking sultan

Sadly I think it should be last season for Bowden

#BeKind

Gareth Ellis was a plus. Great first half stint by him.

I'd like to have a look at Saints first two tries, both looked dodgy, second one looked like Mahe caught the ball and the Saints player knocked it forward out of his hands

Some positives and negatives to take from that one. Time to eat some pie.

Having Houghton, Fash and Johnstone on at the same time was a real error from Radford. Especially when Masi was still fresh sat on the bench.

I thought we were sitting pretty at half time, 6-2 up and I think we'd only made 1 interchange. It looked like a masterstroke from Radders.

I agree there is no logic there at all.
Even carrying two hookers for this game was illogical given the conditions.
Dont get this playing Houghton at 13.he is no ball player and always gives away penalties.
Club captain should not be a pass for automatic selection.If there is a selection choice to make at 9 then make it and not go halfway by including both players in the 17.

Strange old game that.
Thought we look OK in the first half, matched them set for set.
Then a disaster of a 20 mins in which we barely touched the ball, made loads of errors and lost the ability to defend.
Then just about steadied the ship and scored a couple of decent tries.

I was a bit baffled by the use of the bench today. Masi sat there for 60 mins and we clearly still had 2 left with 3 mins to go even having used one to sub Ratu.

All in all I'm not sure what to make of that. Encouraged by the first 40, annoyed by the next 20 and then slightly encouraged again that it didn't turn into a total rout.

Pretty garbage 2nd half although losing ratu really disrupted our right edge. We looked good defensively in that 1st half then fell to pieces in the 2nd and saints scored 3 tries on that edge as a result.

Difficult to gauge as we were missing 4 forwards who would have played and at least 1 back. I'm sure ma'u, savelio, satae and bowden would have made us better.

This obsession with Houghton playing 80 minutes need to go. He does a lot of defending but we lose go forward when he's at 13

Connor had a shocker but he may get a reprieve and play centre next week if Carlos is out.

We seem to have a lot of injuries already and add in the 2 suspensions and were struggling. Hopefully Sao doesn't pick up a ban for his late hit in the 1st half

It was a hugely frustrating game. I don't think at any stage we played "well" but in the first half we worked incredibly hard for that narrow lead. To come out in the second and concede 4 times so meekly was infuriating and just made me think that nothing has changed from last year. It's almost like when we start to feel it slipping away we just give up completely.

The fact that we dug our heels in and avoided an embarrassment gives me a small crumb of comfort. But I just couldn't avoid thinking that the more things change the more they stay the same.

On the playing front I don't know what the damage is injury wise, but straight away I would be putting Kelly in at 6 and promoting Brown ahead of either Fash or Matongo. Neither are good enough and I aren't sure they ever will be.

What a costly third quarter after we'd been pretty impressive in the first half.

Kicking game was poor today and we really missed Albert Kelly who will certainly be back in next week, which could be a long afternoon if Wigan are in the mood and we have a number missing. The pack brought back memories of last year. Sadly Masi and Fash just don't cut it for me.

The one consolation was that instead of it being 38-12 that disallowed try allowed us to get a bit of respectability at 32-18.

Still early days. First half was good. Second awful. Fash lane are not good enough surely Beinik and Brown would offer more. Also having Houghton Johnston on at the same time doesn't work. We do have half our pack missing our 2 wingers and Kelly. Fonua clearly Still rusty. Hopefully some back next week. Move on to next week

We have no decent forward cover at all. Any injuries and were into lane, fash and matongo. We should have signed another prop instead of fonua

Not sure whether it was on here or on Twitter that I read recently somebody saying that Carlos Tuimavave's place was under threat.

Well we saw today that is nonsense. He's our first choice centre.

One position is his, the other is between Fonua/Connor/Griffin.

Agreed, I have never got the opinion that some people have that Carlos isn't a 1st pick at centre for me. Really like Ligi Sao too. The rest?? Pffft! We had 2 hookers on the pitch and neither got to the play the ball where we didn't have an acting half! Sneyds kicking on the 5th has been awful all season so far. Connor just isn't the 6 we need. Sneyd doesn't commit to the line so we need our 6 to be a running threat, which isn't Jake. Matongo, dont know what it is with him. In the under 21s he was a beast, running onto the ball, aggressive. Hes just a pussycat.