Didn't we make the semi final in 2016 and 2017?

Our inability to turn pressure in the oppositions 25 into points has been a common problem for three seasons now.
Today was a good indicator. We continued looking for barge overs while Catalan created overlaps with ease.

Fair enough, I dont know the guy, I just remember it being a botched decision to let him go during a period where we swapped half backs ever season out of despiration.

You'll have to fight Wire for him.....
Then again he might not want either.

Yes the players have to take responsibility, but in most cases these players are the 2nd or 3rd Radford has signed or promoted from the academy to play in their position.

Aside from Shaul, Houghton, Ellis and a then young Bowden its an entirely different set of players to Radfords first season, yet we still play mainly the same way and are still unable to play for 80mins, surely all the players who have been and gone over the Radford years cant all be bad players.

I’ve lost interest
That’s what I said under Agar and become my signature lol
And here we go again

A good (top) coach would more then pay for themselves.

I wonder how much has Radford cost Person and the club in losses (financially)

We are a top club and a very attractive job for both Uk based and overseas coaches. In my opinion if Pearson wanted to i am certain we have the contacts overseas to bring in an Aussie coach.
The problem is it would take Radford to resign.
Clean sweep needed with both Radford and Last moving on and the job not just passed onto current staff.
Just think what Tony Smith could do with our squad and resources

I'm now in this club! Where do I sign up, do I get a membership number? Inept again. Couple of great plays covered up a lot of cracks again. But that's the story of this current Hull FC side. Sneyds drop goal covers up the fact he cannot create anything and his defence is woeful and started their comeback. Shaul has been very ordinary and cannot be a pivot, yet people will laud him for that try today (which came from him following the ball which is what he needs to do all the time!) Change needed.

Would they need a pay off? Thought they were on week to week contracts. However I'm now prepared for disappointment whatever occurs.

You can have nobby noble

The only thing I agree with in this is, Shaul is not a pivot.
Get Connor in at full back, problem sorted.

Week to week - where was this reported? My opinion is that the funds required to change coaching teams to the calibre many expect is probably unrealistic given additional cash already sunk on the squad.

Connor proved today that he is not a 6. Did more in 25mins at centre than the previous 4 games at 6

It's a rolling contract as such I believe

Radford has said several times he doesn't sign a new contract or worry about signing one, they just have an agreement for it to roll on as Wilde 3 says.

Kind of my position too.

Apathy is the best word to describe it. I can't even be bothered to have a rant about it. We need a change just to get a bit of excitement around the club again.

Sadly I just can't see anything happening any time soon. We may well beat Warrington next week, but frankly I don't care.

I said that to my old man when the teams came out and he said it was just like polite applause. Complete apathy.

Surely we can backload a contract like we have done with players previously. I.e. a smaller amount this season as its an unbudgeted expense offset by higher amount next season. If we have to let our large cast of squad players who rarely play to pay for it then so be it.

As others have said both Pearson and Radford have confirmed he is on a rolling contract, there is no large payoff to make.

If I'm right, I believe we've only had 5 first team players ever present in the first five games. Shaul, Griffin, Sneyd, Taylor and Sao. You could count Connor too, but he missed half a game today. I think Lane as been ever present too, but not sure he'd make our best 17 if all fit.

It's not that easy to be producing your best stuff week to week, when you have heavy disruption to the continuity of your team like that. It just so happened we got these disruptions during a tough run of games. That's just the way it goes sometimes.

The main thing now is to try and pick ourselves back up after a tough to take defeat, and we have to do it quick, by Friday, because Wakefield won't be feeling sorry for us

Another failure of a season and fans walking away would be much more expensive.

I think we have Wakefield next week, and I think we may (again) struggle against them

Exactly the same as we said today. He looked a decent player again today.

Its true that injuries and suspensions have played their part, but we have chosen to go with a larger squad which should help lessen the impact.

At clubs on a lower budget such as Wakefield if a big name player gets injured they are down to youth players, not someone like Lane who has played 35 times across 3 seasons now. The problem we have is that this group of 'squad players' dont make enough impact. Lane wasnt bad today, but never changes a game either.

You then have the question of if we didnt have so many squad players could we invest in 1 or 2 top class players instead. Theres pros and cons with both approaches when it comes to squad size.

It's been widely reported, seems everyone else is aware of this.