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| Bit harsh writing him off on two poor games.
Quite unsual for RLFans, that.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Bit harsh writing him off on two poor games.
Quite unsual for RLFans, that.'"
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| Quote ="B0NES"Clearly , You haven't seen his last couple of games.'"
So your judging him on his last couple of games? What about when Briscoe was out of form this season, was you saying how bad a player he is?
Inglis the best player in the world has been out of form at Souths iirc, yet you wouldn't judge him.
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| Quote ="the artist"since his return to wests he has been in woeful form. i've watched his last 2 games and he's missed kicks through leading to 3 tries for the opposition, and was so bad in one game he was shifted onto the wing, where he made yet another error leading to a try. hope this is not a sign of things to come and he's just suffering from the general malaise the whole tigers team (ellis excepted) seem to be going through at the moment. something going badly wrong at the tigers at the moment
anyone else worried?'"
Haven't slept for weeks worrying.
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| not been great last 2 game games but dosent concern me at all he will be a class player for us when he plays and thats my only issue is the injury record
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| Is anybody writing him off? I see people voicing concerns and rightly so.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Is anybody writing him off? I see people voicing concerns and rightly so.'"
I'm more bothered about his age and injury record than how he's played the last couple of weeks. I'd guess he's costing a lot more than phelps
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"I'm more bothered about his age and injury record than how he's played the last couple of weeks. I'd guess he's costing a lot more than phelps'"
have to agree
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| He's had two poor games but do do plenty of player's. Only worry are his hamstrings.
Ability wise he should do very well in SL.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He's had two poor games but do do plenty of player's. Only worry are his hamstrings.
Ability wise he should do very well in SL.'"
agree but at leaste we should have some cover
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"clearly you have never seen him play'"
Go and express your views on McKinnon on the Wests forum, and they'll label you a very deluded person. Obviously you'll know much more than the people that watch him week in, week out though.
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| Quote ="Panda92"I can't give any criticism towards McKinnon at all because I've never seen much of him. However, the thing that worries me is his recent injury record.
For me, I'd have liked to have seen Phelps stay. I'm a fan of Phelps because he runs the ball back strongly and fits into the attacking line well, and doesn't worry me under a highball. He also seems to put some effort in and comes across as a genuinly nice guy, which is always a good thing.'"
yet phelps,s injury record doesn't concern you,why's that
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| I have watched this guy for quite a while and his last two games have been poor but prior to that he looked very good. Speed power good hands and an ability to back up I reckon he will go good but as usual some on here love to to diss players before they even pull the shirt on.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Is anybody writing him off? I see people voicing concerns and rightly so.'"
Well you said he was a waste of a quota spot. Who would you rather have as our full back?
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"So your judging him on his last couple of games? What about when Briscoe was out of form this season, was you saying how bad a player he is?
Inglis the best player in the world has been out of form at Souths iirc, yet you wouldn't judge him.'"
Thread drift. This is about Mckinnon . Defensivley , He looks shocking.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Go and express your views on McKinnon on the Wests forum, and they'll label you a very deluded person. Obviously you'll know much more than the people that watch him week in, week out though.'"
The same fans who moaned like hell when the announcement was made that he was leaving? The same fans who had him second to Benji in the player of the season points?
He has had two bad games in the last two weeks, before that he was playing very well.
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| When did McKinnon become poor in defence?
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| same people who said fitzy was over the hill and o meley was a has been........
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The same fans who moaned like hell when the announcement was made that he was leaving? The same fans who had him second to Benji in the player of the season points?
He has had two bad games in the last two weeks, before that he was playing very well.'"
Can you send me a link please Paul because I spent over an hour trawling their forum looking for positives. I only found 1 person remotely bothered he was leaving, with the vast majority agreeing it was a wise move letting him go. The general consensus is that he has never regained his pace since his knee surgery, his hamstrings are dodgy, and his form is inconsistent.
I don't want to appear uber negative though, I see our competition as far inferior, and there is every chance he could go well here, but it's exasperating how people build players up without any justification. This is usually more damaging in the long run than holding realistic expectations.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Nope the guy is class, all players suffer dips in form as do teams... he is a class act and we are extremely lucky to have secured his services'"
You talk of the guy been class act, get real, he is a decent player in a very good league. Take a look at the full backs in the NRL and then tell me where you would rank him.
And as most have said, judge him when he gets here.
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"You talk of the guy been class act, get real, he is a decent player in a very good league. Take a look at the full backs in the NRL and then tell me where you would rank him.
And as most have said, judge him when he gets here.'"
Thing is 98% of average NRL players are fooking mustard in Super League.. Hence the NRL being light years ahead of us.
I think this guy will ooze quality!!
But I agree I'll judge him when he's here.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Can you send me a link please Paul because I spent over an hour trawling their forum looking for positives. I only found 1 person remotely bothered he was leaving, with the vast majority agreeing it was a wise move letting him go. The general consensus is that he has never regained his pace since his knee surgery, his hamstrings are dodgy, and his form is inconsistent.
I don't want to appear uber negative though, I see our competition as far inferior, and there is every chance he could go well here, but it's exasperating how people build players up without any justification. This is usually more damaging in the long run than holding realistic expectations.'"
I don't have it. At the time he first signed somone posted a link and there were loads of comments saying things like 'why are we letting him go' 'big mistake' etc. He was also 2nd behind Benji on their player of the season list and a way ahead of 3rd place.
Message boards are fickle, he's had two stinkers so any comments you read right now are bound to be negative, you only have to look on here for that.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Can you send me a link please Paul because I spent over an hour trawling their forum looking for positives. I only found 1 person remotely bothered he was leaving, with the vast majority agreeing it was a wise move letting him go. The general consensus is that he has never regained his pace since his knee surgery, his hamstrings are dodgy, and his form is inconsistent.
I don't want to appear uber negative though, I see our competition as far inferior, and there is every chance he could go well here, but it's exasperating how people build players up without any justification. This is usually more damaging in the long run than holding realistic expectations.'"
Well that to me just makes the West fans fickle, because as Paul said when it was first announced we had signed him they where saying it was a bad move letting him go and that he was there best player other then Marshell. Also its amazing that while he was playing well nothing was said about him but as soon as he has a couple of bad games hes the talk of the forum
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Can you send me a link please Paul because I spent over an hour trawling their forum looking for positives. I only found 1 person remotely bothered he was leaving,=#0000FF with the vast majority agreeing it was a wise move letting him go. The general consensus is that he has never regained his pace since his knee surgery, his hamstrings are dodgy, and his form is inconsistent.
I don't want to appear uber negative though, I see our competition as far inferior, and there is every chance he could go well here, but it's exasperating how people build players up without any justification. This is usually more damaging in the long run than holding realistic expectations.'"
You'll probably find they wasn't fussed as they had a ready made replacement in Tim Molzten at the time but he has now deflected to the Dragons, so opinion may of changed.
Fans are fickle you'll have the same people on here saying that Horne was passed it and that we should release him but now are all for him having a new 2 year deal because of an up tunr in form over recent weeks.
I'll be reserving my judgement until he's here then i will lambast him when its proved he's injury prone and past it.
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| You cannot doubt his ability and your right he has had a dip in form...
Just hope he settles well and gets on with his game early as possible.
Just hope it doesnt get like Luke Pattern, Class act in the NRL last season, very average in the superleague this season.
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