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| Quote ="garry brindley"Wanting what is best for your team is what being a fan is about. 99% of the time that means wanting them to win but in extreme circumstances like this it might mean losing a few games is for the best.'"
I think you call it "shot term pain for long term gain".
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| Banners were taken down after hull fc requested it. Freedom of speech seems not to exist at the stoop
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| The real irony here is the "non agar out fans" would imo, have been merely stalling for the final score and then they too, in a large majority, would have turned on agar and the team too, had we lost. Hats off to the guys who stood up verbally and visually for what they believe is right ie Agar Out. One, paper over the crack win, isn't going to be enough to fool the masses. We may be faithful, but we aren't stupid!! I hope!!
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| Quote ="hullbg"Banners were taken down after hull fc requested it. Freedom of speech seems not to exist at the stoop'"
Who told you this?
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"Who told you this?'"
The steward who took my banner Down
Asked why and he said hull fc asked for it to be taken down. Steward was apologetic and just doing his job
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| Quote ="hullbg"The steward who took my banner Down
Asked why and he said hull fc asked for it to be taken down. Steward was apologetic and just doing his job'"
Ahhhh ok. They still recognised your message, then? Didn't want any adverse effects on the team?
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| Just spoke to my brother, he was one of the people with the banner, whilst I think the banner should of been taken down during the game. They have the right to voice there opinions on a matter where hundreds if not thousands agreed with at the wakefield game. If the Hull club think removing a banner will make this matter go away they are wrong. A decent win must not be aloud to paper over the cracks and Agar must walk away or be sacked before some irreversible damage is done to the team that we all have supported for many years.
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| Difference between being loyal supporters of the club and loyal supporters of Agar.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"you could win every game for the next ten seasons but there would still be the hardcore 'AGAR OUT' band...'"
Why would you come on here just to post such a stupid thing ?
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| Having an opinion one way or another does not make any one fan more or less loyal than the next. The club is what any loyalty or allegiance is towards and to coin the good old phrase thare's no i in team. With that in mind there will always be induviduals within a club which receive support/attacks from some and others dont and it is inevitable that in difficult times the opinions get polarised somewhat.
One thing is for sure - when differences in opinions (whichever side you are on) turn nasty and all appreciation that other people have their own views go out of the window, regardless of how strong your own opinion is, then reason has gone out of the window and it certainly doesn't do the club any good at all - now there's loyalty for you.
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| Get the the black and White ribbons out,we've beaten quins in a game we could quite easily have lost.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Why would you come on here just to post such a stupid thing ?'"
just to attract stupid retorts like yours
there's nothing like a bad winner !
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| Quote ="sanjunien"just to attract stupid retorts like yours
there's nothing like a bad winner !'"
Yeah.
Cya then.
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| Quote ="sanjunien"just to attract stupid retorts like yours
there's nothing like a bad winner !'"
see if your saying that next week when rangi tears a new a hole.ask yourself this on our recruitment this year did we get the players we wanted or did we get the players the other clubs didnt want?.why because our boards ambition is to make money no matter what dross rugby their fallguy (agar)dishess out for us long suffering fans
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| does hull have loyal fans we all booed kearny on winning M O M we all booed tommy lee then said how good he was when he came back we all booed colin best in his first game when he threw a silly pass to precky we all hated calders and said he wasnt interested at the start until he showed otherwise grimaldi at boulevard was claimed to be a waste of money in his first 5 games we were happy at getting rid of craig hall now we think justin might turn him into a good player dowes, radford, long, horne, luaiaki, turner and washbrook have all been slagged off this year loyal fans dont make me laugh
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| Quote ="BIG HOWARD"does hull have loyal fans we all booed kearny on winning M O M we all booed tommy lee then said how good he was when he came back we all booed colin best in his first game when he threw a silly pass to precky we all hated calders and said he wasnt interested at the start until he showed otherwise grimaldi at boulevard was claimed to be a waste of money in his first 5 games we were happy at getting rid of craig hall now we think justin might turn him into a good player dowes, radford, long, horne, luaiaki, turner and washbrook have all been slagged off this year loyal fans dont make me laugh'"
By your definition of a 'loyal fan', there are hardly any in the world.
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| Things like this will drive more supporters away, its not worth the aggro at the end of the day, I have never booed my team or my fellow supporters. FC supporters we all are and we should respect each others views, we do not throw insults and derision at each other. Fans who do that are not loyal fans they are beyond contempt, the fans wanting Rich Agar out are aiming there campaign at the board not other fans.
FC may think they are winning the battle, taking down banners and coming down hard on dissent its almost Gaddafi like. They are slowly draining the life blood out of the club and for what, a coach who already knows the writing is on the wall.
FC won against a team that Warrington tonked 82 - 6 its a start sure, but lets get excited when we have beat Leeds, Saints and Wire away.
Reality check time.............................
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| Very good post Ian.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Well as predicted things are getting a bit nasty between the fans regarding Agar now. A few fans had Agar Out T-Shirts on and were on the receiving of a bit of abuse they ended up leaving the stand to boos and chants of "loyal supporters". The irony is these same fans had been having a go at the players earlier in the half. I just don't get it. They have the right to voice their opinion regarding and it's an opinion lots of fans share. Just because they choose to show it at again does not make them any less of a fan. Some people need to grow up.'"
I was in the etihad stand, but wondered why they had been kicked out. I assumed that it must have been for aggro, but I said to my mate that they have every right to stand up for what they believe in.
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| Quote ="Ian P"Things like this will drive more supporters away, its not worth the aggro at the end of the day, I have never booed my team or my fellow supporters. FC supporters we all are and we should respect each others views, we do not throw insults and derision at each other. Fans who do that are not loyal fans they are beyond contempt, the fans wanting Rich Agar out are aiming there campaign at the board not other fans.
FC may think they are winning the battle, taking down banners and coming down hard on dissent its almost Gaddafi like. They are slowly draining the life blood out of the club and for what, a coach who already knows the writing is on the wall.
FC won against a team that Warrington tonked 82 - 6 its a start sure, but lets get excited when we have beat Leeds, Saints and Wire away.
Reality check time.............................'"
Ian generally speaking I agree with this and most of what you put, but without sounding like Ja Rule Quins have done 2/3rds of what you ask for this season, Leeds and Sts away. We have gone to their back yard and come away with a very spirited victory at a place we hardly ever win.
Its a small start and I believe a sign that the players are behind the coach. If they are to a man then we can see things grow. A couple of back to back victories and we will see confidence grow. Unfortunately at the moment its very fragile. The crowd is hostile and the players anxious. We were 10 mins away from mass cries of Agar out yesterday but the players responded and so did the fans.
Demonstrations during a game do not help the players. Equally censorship from the club is a massive no no. Those responsible should be ashamed of themselves. That can undo years of great off field work. That is the danger now.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Very good post Ian.'"
Yeah - comparing the actions of the club to those of a murderous dictator is in no way going completely OTT.
Really.
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| Quote ="Ian P"
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What a ridiculous analogy
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| Quote ="hull smallears"I was in the etihad stand, but wondered why they had been kicked out. I assumed that it must have been for aggro, but I said to my mate that they have every right to stand up for what they believe in.'"
Who took down banner / chucked them out??
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