What a truly abysmal game of rugby league that was.
Cold, boring, error strewn, stop-start and with dreadful officiating to boot.

Negatives: Myriad!
A lot to work on with ball in hand and we desperately need to enthusiasm.
Awful discipline and threw away the lead with stupid penalties.
We'll probably cop a ban or two and our captain has whiplash so I expect some changes next week.

Positives: Our defence was pretty good, only conceded 1 try. Also despite all the errors and penalties we managed to stay in the game and but for a goalpost could have won it so something to work with.

Early days so no need to panic just yet.

Not sure Hadley will be back next week? Watts may cop a ban, Ellis will have a head test I guess.

Awful game, and I still think we are lacking a big impact prop, too many second rowers in the squad. Radford also needs to learn to adapt his tactics, it was clear Connor at halfback wasnt working so why didnt he switch him with Carlos to shake it up?

The difference for me was that Moas was a tackle, Taylors just sort of pushes him. If Taylor puts his arms up and effects a tackle he probably gets away with it.
I've not seen any replays though so could be wrong.

Anyone else feel underwhelmed with Griffin
Certainly cant tackle.Nowhere near International standard if thats his aim.
Workrate and tackling from Tuimavave was once again very good
Connor did nothing to press Kelly for a starting spot at half back.
If there is no improvement from Griffin,I can see Radford bringing Michaels back on the wing and moving Fonua back to centre with Carlos taking the left centre position.

Not the best game but credit to Catalan...a real strong defensive effort with injuries impacting their interchange options.
Thought Carols defensive was impressive and did well with ball in hand. all our props stood up well...again. We offered little in attack but that will come time.

Nothing to get too concerned about for me...Catalan will go well this year imo

hopefully ellis be ok, if Hadley missing what about giving matongo a bench spot? as for griffin thought he played ok tbf

We certainly seem to go go to pieces when Ellis goes off,lets hope he's back soon.Didn't think Catalan were much better than us but they were more organised,half backs kicked well and they had Greg Bird who was instrumental in their try just after half time.

It wasn't as bad a game as you are making out. There was a lot of intensity in the game and the battle between Manu, Taylor, Watts and Haughton against Moa, Bird and Casty was fantastic with some cracking hits put in. Catalans were superb tonight particularly defensively and with Walsh stepping into 9 when it got heated their game management was good. They have always been capable of performances like that and on their day they can beat anyone in Super League, they just don't have the squad to maintain it over a season. You missed Kelly tonight, that spark and individual threat to unlock their defense was sorely missed. But as one or two of you have mentioned, it was your discipline that cost you the game. I think Hull genuinely have the best 17 in Super League, the only side that has quality in both the backs and the pack. But you are also the dumbest side in the league without question. Watts lifting for the penalty was mind blowing and there were several other completely unnecessary penalties conceded.

Same as last year at times tbh but minus the .1% we had to get the victory

Im normally Tuimavaves biggest critic but he was decent tonight. Green/Bowden invisible, same old directionless without Ellis off the pitch. Mini had a good game as did Manu, Fonua and Tala tried but with very little ball. Sneeeeeyd was poor, Conner looks a squad player at best. Thompson and Washbrook both average infact all subs poor

bit early to write conner off, agree we need to shake up the bench,

frustrating ame all round, compared to the two games at the start of last year we are a long way from that.
Work to be done and players need a bollocking, the discipline was bloody awful at times.

Very frustrating.
Catalan came with a plan and we fell for it !
We look very poor with ball in hand , if Sneyd's kicks don't come off we lack ideas . Hopefully Kelly will bring a plan b !
Conner is not a halfback, that was clearly evident tonight .
Also get Fonua back in the centre where he belongs !
Our descipline is terrible , timing was way out . Maybe a few more needed some more pre season game time instead of making our pre season a run out for the under 23 's !

Really poor performance, shocking discipline (this was bad in pre season and hasn't improved), handling and being dumb. Defence was good, but that's about it, too early to write players and the team off, but need big improvement across the park.

its only game 2, our defence in the last 2 games looks fine, we are struggling in attack though, Kelly will help that and with more games we should get better, our bench looks light imo, A match we could have won but fair play to cats,

Awful game. From the first minute to the last fc were awful. Credit to Catalans, they played a blinder, slowing the game right down and sucking us into it (and hicks). Have to question the dragons gamesmanship tactics though, how long does play stop for minor treatment?

Id rather see Masi on the subs bench than Thompson tbh

Totally agree with pre season game time needed. We look poor with ball in hand low skills. Don't want to be gloomy but!

your right about Thompson, we need to get Hadley turgut or masi on the bench give us a bit more grunt,

Don't get what the big downer is with Thompson by some on here. He certainly wasn't the poorest player out there.
And how do you know turgut or masi will give us more grunt?

its not a downer, he tries his best but most people think hes just a decent squad player, as for turgut and masi, I don't know but I would like to see them given a chance,

I've been very negative today about Thompson, but didn't do a lot wrong tonight, thought other where worst than him tonight, including Watts, who somehow got MOTM!!!

the first half that I managed to watch, Thompson was playing pretty decent, some good tackles, didn't do much if anything wrong. Couldn't get to see the second half but considering how poor others were just in the first half alone and it's him copping the flak.

We need a big Frank Pritchard type player,weather you loved him or loathed him he certainly made his presence felt.

guess we all see things different, what is for sure we have to up our attack,