thats your opinion mate,same as others are entitled to theres.

Difference is he's right

Interesting points. here's my take on the areas you've mentioned:

Agar - not head coach material. Doesn't seem to have the personality or the man management skills to get the best out of a group of players. No matter who they are or who assembled them, there will always be difficult people to deal with and he doesn't seem able. A lack of continuity isn't a reason to keep an underperforming person IMO, it's a reason to go out and find the right person

tactics - terrible. From his apparant lack of a game plan, through us not particulary looking at oppostition plays, strengths and weaknesses to his interchange policy. Every facet of our tactical approach to games is flawed. This is a key area for any team who does not have the playing personnel to win games with their quality alone

Recruitment- the jury's out for me. he's re-signed cusack and radford who are both average workhorses and not what the team needs. lauaiki may be great for us or poor (if he ever gets here). Of the 3 new players coming in, 2 are well in their 30's and the other is a player who wasn't a regular in the leeds team last season. long may turn out to be a great signing but I don't believe he will reach the heights he has at saints. fitzgibbon isn't the type of player our forward pack is desperate for. We don't know who else is coming in or which OOC players are re-signing but I honestly don't see that the team will be transformed for 2010

board - we need to distinguish between the board and the shareholders. I don't have a problem with the shareholders. they have kept the club afloat and taken us to success on and off the field. i feel our main weakness is at CEO. rule is inexperienced and it shows. We have made some bad mistakes since he took over. I also don't know how much "power" he has and what decisions he can take himself. We need a more experienced person in the role IMO.

No, it's his opinion and nothing more.

I don't know why people listen, we all know what sort of things will be said, Rule is hardly going to be controversial even if he agreed with the disgruntled fans.

I have not listened to one of his shows yet and have no intention of doing so.

A lot is said of FC as a business and how successful it has been. And this is true. So, rule is CEo of that business. Congrats on the success. So, you can replace the word fan up above with customer. We are all customers of the business he is CEO of. In which case, if a CEO wants to go public and speak to disgruntled customers, I for one think he needs to face up to some of the issues and give us straight answers and tell us what is what, and what is going to happen come what may. I would respect him a lot more if he came out and said Agar is coach for next season even if we lose every game between now and then. What Rule et al need to realise is that he is messing about his customers, some of which (unlike me) will not be a customer next season. As a CEO this is a severe business failure and he needs to wake up, be a little controversial if necessary and deal with the issues at hand.

Give over Wolfie,you have to be bullet proof on here if you go against general opinion.



(I once said we needed Shaun Briscoe,then had to go into hiding.

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I know plenty of people who are giving up their passes next season and who will pick and choose games dependant on form. I'll no doubt renew mine but mainly to keep the reserved seast I have and will probably pick and choose myself if form doesn't improve

Me and my mates will be doing the same

just downgrade it to a kids pass so you still get to keep the same seat

:3mircr7j.My thoughts exactly.I think we should all give Agar the benefit of the doubt.Let him assemble his own team and make changes.I am so far really impressed with his new signings and will be hoping there are more to come.Lets all judge him next season and hope he gets it right.To many fans wanting instant success and it does not really work like that.Lets stop all the sniping and give Agar and Hull F.C. our 100% backing again.

There you go, now it's time to dis-credit!

Quote ="EXILEDHULLADGATESHEAD"Agar your about as welcome as a romanian on a belfast housing estate!!!

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how very topical.........my names Ben Elton....GOODNIGHT

i know this sounds silly but if the gameplan aint working there is enough experience out there just to say ,hang on a minute this aint working lets try this or that ??

More to do with the beer in charlston to be honest

I think thats the main point people are missing when they are calling for agars head! Why cant the players execute different plays to suit different opposition? Think people believe agar tells the players 'dont bother putting 100% in lads, something will happen for us'!! The attitude of the players on the pitch is more of an issue, and before you all get on about agars man management and motivational skills, a player should take pride in their own performances without having to be told to play well.

well said

And a coach should be able to respond to and improve poor performance. agar has shown absolutely zilch in over a year in the job to suggest he's up to it

Exactly. I dont understand how people can think that 17 players go out there every week and choose not to put the plays on and choose not to move up in defence etc.

How is Agar becoming free from blame here? Surely if he worked on the attacking patterns with them in training they would then put them on in a game, and if they dont he should have the balls to drop them for underperforming. I dont get how this is the players fault?

All very well and good, but none of that saved Sharp from the axe.

Most people accept that the players share the blame, but Agar is spectacularly failing to deal with it. It's also the job of the coach to identify weak spots in the opposition and devise a game plan to exploit them. There is evidence that against Wakey at least this simply wasn't done. That's unacceptable.

Agree with the player responsibility thing completely.

Agar is however doing himself no favours in his team selection and interchange management. His two biggest failings for me. On the PR side he has to stop setting himself up to be caned. You dont go out saying that player's are under pressure for their places/senior players are letting you down etc. etc. then do nothing. You dont say that you want to play expansive rugby then send one of your only footballers to Widnes and drop the other one who could play LF to 18th man (and who puts it in week in week out) in exchange for playing a slow prop there. You don't lose a whole heap of matches and not try something different in selection and structure. Hull fans in general know their rugby and whilst we all have different ways of communicating our thoughts I don't think Agar or Rule should be in any doubt that the majority can see the failings and worse still can see when they are not being addressed.

Agar is not free from blame at all because he does control tactics, interchanges and selections etc, which have me baffled most weeks!

However the closenes of super league means that mistakes get punished and off the top of my head at Wakey in the first half we had Berro kick out on the full then knock on a risky Thackray offload - both in our half. Tickle and Radders giving away penalties on the 4th and 5th tackles - invite Wakey into our 40. Result 18v0 down and mountain to climb.

I want the senior players to stand up when things go against us not wait for the next man to grab the game by the scruff of the neck.

Good post.

I want out tactics to be correct and the small errors wouldnt matter. Most teams make them, we just dont have attacking plays etc to gloss over them like teams like saints.

Pi$$ poor practice results in pi$$ poor performance