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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"That's the stadium site. I believe (although I may be wrong) that rovers bought the adjoining land (the old school I think) a few years ago'"
Not according to [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Allam-key-Hull-KR-s-Craven-Park-sports-academy/story-13580074-detail/story.htmlthis:[/url
[iIt saw him write to Lord Prescott, informing him that as the development was [uon council land – for which KR have a 27-year lease[/u – he was withdrawing his support.[/i
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Not according to [url=http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Allam-key-Hull-KR-s-Craven-Park-sports-academy/story-13580074-detail/story.htmlthis:[/url
[iIt saw him write to Lord Prescott, informing him that as the development was [uon council land – for which KR have a 27-year lease[/u – he was withdrawing his support.[/i'"
So again why can he put (or give money for) an extension on one rented house but not the other?
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| £2 million doesn't buy you a lot of moden Centre of Sporting Excellence does it?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"£2 million doesn't buy you a lot of moden Centre of Sporting Excellence does it?'"
It's only a training ground and they don't need to buy the land.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It's only a training ground and they don't need to buy the land.'"
Do you read the aticles before commenting?
[iThe complex would have new changing rooms, floodlit artificial training pitches and a state-of-the art gymnasium.[/i
Sounds more than "only a training ground" to me
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| Well a 3g/4G Pitch if they get a full size will swallow up about a third of that
rest will be a few Wii's with sportspacks i guess
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Well a 3g/4G Pitch if they get a full size will swallow up about a third of that
rest will be a few Wii's with sportspacks i guess'"
The article mentioned "pitches". i.e. more than one.
Don't forget that, given the proposed location, what would be the cost of security?
If the facilities ever were built, who would be responsible for the running and ongoing maintenance costs?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"The article mentioned "pitches". i.e. more than one.
Don't forget that, given the proposed location, what would be the cost of security?
If the facilities ever were built, who would be responsible for the running and ongoing maintenance costs?'"
shhh cod'ead, don't ask for specifics, no details will be entered into, I went into HSBC today and asked them for a £10m loan, they asked to see the business case, income and profit projections and to complete a credit check, I said I was really sorry, but all of that was unnecessary and inconvenient, I paid £2.79 for the markers I used to put it on the wipe board and I need to get the flip chart easel back into the office before anyone notices it's missing, I also asked if it was "'cos I is white" and made sure they knew damdn well that earth was part of the milky way, they didn't even trust my references for a similar business idea we recently completed on Ganemede. Anyway, got to go, got a pastafarian meeting tonight.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Do you read the aticles before commenting?
[iThe complex would have new changing rooms, floodlit artificial training pitches and a state-of-the art gymnasium.[/i
Sounds more than "only a training ground" to me'"
Sounds like a training ground to me. What would you expect to be in a training ground?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Do you read the aticles before commenting?
[iThe complex would have new changing rooms, floodlit artificial training pitches and a state-of-the art gymnasium.[/i
Sounds more than "only a training ground" to me'"
To be fair when your quoting that lot its nowhere near a cheap as 2million quid cod'ead so the article itself is in dream land and some people might get confused by that
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| Quote ="Standee"shhh cod'ead, don't ask for specifics, no details will be entered into, I went into HSBC today and asked them for a £10m loan, they asked to see the business case, income and profit projections and to complete a credit check, I said I was really sorry, but all of that was unnecessary and inconvenient, I paid £2.79 for the markers I used to put it on the wipe board and I need to get the flip chart easel back into the office before anyone notices it's missing, I also asked if it was "'cos I is white" and made sure they knew damdn well that earth was part of the milky way, they didn't even trust my references for a similar business idea we recently completed on Ganemede. Anyway, got to go, got a pastafarian meeting tonight.'"
LMAO (waits for all hull city supporters to come on saying it will be great for the city and shut up or we will kick you out of our stadium) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"
Sounds like a training ground to me.'"
A training ground that would cost way over the £2 millions quoted
Quote ="Jake the Peg"What would you expect to be in a training ground?'"
A flat, grass field is a training ground. £2 millions would nowhere near cover the suggested "extras"
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| Quote ="Standee"shhh cod'ead, don't ask for specifics, no details will be entered into, I went into HSBC today and asked them for a £10m loan, they asked to see the business case, income and profit projections and to complete a credit check, I said I was really sorry, but all of that was unnecessary and inconvenient, I paid £2.79 for the markers I used to put it on the wipe board and I need to get the flip chart easel back into the office before anyone notices it's missing, I also asked if it was "'cos I is white" and made sure they knew damdn well that earth was part of the milky way, they didn't even trust my references for a similar business idea we recently completed on Ganemede. Anyway, got to go, got a pastafarian meeting tonight.'"
As someone commented in the Allam Daily Wail's comments section: "he should have been co-opted onto the Olympic delivery committee, he would've saved the nation £ billions"
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| Quote ="Coach"To be fair when your quoting that lot its nowhere near a cheap as 2million quid cod'ead so the article itself is in dream land and some people might get confused by that'"
F**k. That's my irony meter gone into overload. People on here confused and misunderstanding articles in the HDM? Ger on. You'll be telling me they like Sadam Pearson next.
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| Quote ="My Uncle Harry"F**k. That's my irony meter gone into overload. People on here confused and misunderstanding articles in the HDM? Ger on. You'll be telling me they like Sadam Pearson next.
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We are not confused I for one can see what is at the back of it ..He got City out of the Sh-- now he is getting Rovers fans on his side ..I see it has if your Council give me my demands I will built thing on Preston Road If not you will not get it ..Were I come from it's called Blackmail ..If you do things for people you do it with a good heart and you don't put demands on it ..What get me people like you stick up for him ..A gift is a gift NO STRINGS
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| Quote ="boulevard clover"So again why can he put (or give money for) an extension on one rented house but not the other?'"
Because it suits.
Everything, in my opinion, that Mr Allam does of a "philanthropic" nature can be traced back to the Masterplan - that of securing the freehold of the stadium thereby unlocking the way forward to the real returns.
Building this development in East Hull creates goodwill with Rovers fans and East Hull residents alike, and skews the "weight of obligation" a bit further in his corner against the council.
The more of these relatively small projects he funds - this one, the £1M gift-loan, the squash jobbie, the "saving" of Hull City, the schools and medical donations - the more he creates a perceived obligation to the council and the more likely "neutral" citizens are to give him support and push for referendums - they don't know better, and more dangerously, don't really care...
That's why it doesn't matter that this particular piece of ground is council-owned, it's not the crucial bit of ground that is the make or break of his way forward - the KC and lands.
What is starting to worry me a bit is just how much in his pocket - for some unfathomable reason - are the Mail and Blunderside. They are so unimpartial one could be forgiven for thinking they had ulterior motives. The Mail - as a private company, can take whatever angle it wishes - the media throughout the ages has reflected the views of their various benefactors and business interests. Humberside, though, as a publicly financed organisation should be meticulously impartial, and taken to task when they aren't. I think more should be vociferous about this and making noises in the right ears.
Because, make no mistake, the outcome of this will depend not on the rights and wrongs of the cases presented, but which side the media takes. Look at countless General Elections and the relative influences of the Sun and the Mirror. Plus Allam can afford to run a convincing campaign on the case of a referendum, the council can't - they can only present the facts.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"A training ground that would cost way over the £2 millions quoted
A flat, grass field is a training ground. £2 millions would nowhere near cover the suggested "extras"'"
You could easily throw up a building with a gym and some changing facilities plus an all weather pitch (It won't be state of the art like the one widnes are installing) and get some basic lighting for £2m.
Hull were going to build their training facilities and new club HQ for a million
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Because it suits.
Everything, in my opinion, that Mr Allam does of a "philanthropic" nature can be traced back to the Masterplan - that of securing the freehold of the stadium thereby unlocking the way forward to the real returns.
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Totally agree, It is so obvious what he is trying to do.
It reminds me of the egyptians who try to get tourists to have a ride on their camel then refuse to let them get off until they have paid over the odds.
Wonder if he had a camel before he earned enough to get into boats
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"
Hull were going to build their training facilities and new club HQ for a million'"
Would have looked something like this for that price though
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Because it suits.
Everything, in my opinion, that Mr Allam does of a "philanthropic" nature can be traced back to the Masterplan - that of securing the freehold of the stadium thereby unlocking the way forward to the real returns.
Building this development in East Hull creates goodwill with Rovers fans and East Hull residents alike, and skews the "weight of obligation" a bit further in his corner against the council.
The more of these relatively small projects he funds - this one, the £1M gift-loan, the squash jobbie, the "saving" of Hull City, the schools and medical donations - the more he creates a perceived obligation to the council and the more likely "neutral" citizens are to give him support and push for referendums - they don't know better, and more dangerously, don't really care...
That's why it doesn't matter that this particular piece of ground is council-owned, it's not the crucial bit of ground that is the make or break of his way forward - the KC and lands.
What is starting to worry me a bit is just how much in his pocket - for some unfathomable reason - are the Mail and Blunderside. They are so unimpartial one could be forgiven for thinking they had ulterior motives. The Mail - as a private company, can take whatever angle it wishes - the media throughout the ages has reflected the views of their various benefactors and business interests. Humberside, though, as a publicly financed organisation should be meticulously impartial, and taken to task when they aren't. I think more should be vociferous about this and making noises in the right ears.
Because, make no mistake, the outcome of this will depend not on the rights and wrongs of the cases presented, but which side the media takes. Look at countless General Elections and the relative influences of the Sun and the Mirror. Plus Allam can afford to run a convincing campaign on the case of a referendum, the council can't - they can only present the facts.'"
Excellent post and spot on, people need to step back and think about the ulterior motives behind all these 'gifts' which are being thrown about by Mr Allam and why now.
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| And the Panic begins...
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And the Panic begins...
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And the Panic begins...
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| Quote ="Hutchie"Would have looked something like this for that price though
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"And the Panic begins...
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Ask yourself why he is throwing £3M at your club all of a sudden, think you should watch your backs (and not the ones on the pitch).
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