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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"like the banner'"
I didn't see it so I wouldn't know. If all it said was 'Agar Out', then, no.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"like the banner'"
Yeah, weren't those scenes in the square in Egypt so amazing with everyone chanting for regime change and holding their 'childish retorts' aloft.
Making a banner is a recognised and reasonable form of protest, if you want to pretend that it's not it makes you look even more silly.
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| Can't be bothered to read all 11/12 pages but here's my penny's worth.
As people have already said on here, the only real protest that is going to be taken seriously is one where the fans stay away in mass numbers. The best time for this would be at the derby at easter. A half empty staduim on Sky, on derby day would send out a massive message to the board.
By this time we would have played 10 games and given the team enough time to prove that these first 3 games was just a bad start to the season.
But if the team are playing well and are winning game then we shouldnt be protesting, we should be getting behind the team. As those who protested on Sunday should have, fair enough, take your Agar Out banners but whats the point chanting Agar out and waving banners when the team put in a good effort and were unlucky to lose, these are the times you get behind them. If they played like they did against Leeds and Rovers then make yourself heard because the team are not putting in the effort they should be.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I'm not denying anything you may be right. When was the last time Hull fans' pressure removed a coach at the club out of interest ? Len Casey, maybe ?'"
Might have been a factor in Sharpe going? Can't think of any other cases of the top of my head.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I'm not denying anything you may be right. When was the last time Hull fans' pressure removed a coach at the club out of interest ? Len Casey, maybe ?'"
Dunno about Hull, but you see it quite often in sport. Teams start underperforming, fans get restless, gates drop or fans protest (booing, banners, whatever) and the board sack the coach.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Without wishing to stick my oar in, I'd have thought it wouldn't take a huge amount of imagination to see how the two could be reconciled. If he believes that our chances of success over the course of the season (and beyond) will be improved by Agar going, and he believes that a few losses will achieve that, then the two can be reconciled without any difficulty. You might think he's totally misguided, but it's easy to see where he's coming from.'"
Which was the explanation he came up with and with which I disagreed. I doubt the two of us will change our positions anytime soon.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"You read my post?
So Webbo/Lasty would be better? On what basis?'"
Come on Paul. If you believe that the club would think they can replace Agar with a like for like, then that (imho) is dumb thinking.
They will know that they have played the 'loyalty card' for far to long in regards the coach appointments. They may bring them in on a caretaker role, but they will know the fans expect them to deliver far better then what we have had.
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What more of a signal do Kath and crowd need?? get him on the phone FFS.
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What more of a signal do Kath and crowd need?? get him on the phone FFS.
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| or is he saying it as it is!!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"or is he saying it as it is!!'"
You posted last week he was at the KC, you also implied he was our next coach, make your mind up
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| Quote ="Chris28"Like I said, I can't afford to not use something I've paid for. Besides, I've just spent £100 on shopping and put it all back on the shelves.
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Surely it's cheaper not to go to a game when you factor in beer/food/transport.
Don't go again this season and it will save you a fortune
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| It is a concerted effort by the club to nip any protest off at the bud, too late and its not a this season thing. I have had severe reservations about Rich Agar for the last two seasons, since the way he subsituted Thorman away at Castleford. The fans are not stupid they know only too well when something or in this case someone is not right, they will make there voices heard. This has very little to do with this years perfomances in isolation, this is a bad run stretching back into last season. The club has to remember we have memories, we have every right to voice our opinions and we have every right to stay away. At the end of the day falling reciepts at the gate or the shop will hurt the club and they will either ignore the fans or respond.
We have been fed a diet of spin for years and club have run out of manouvering room, they have been sussed out by too many now. They will have no choice, but to sack Rich Agar as this pressure increases or they will risk alienating many more fans.
We have not reached that point yet, but it is approaching a point where every week will see more and more fans tire of the situation and drift away. This is when the board comes under threat as the longer this goes on the more distant and remote the board will appear. There position is currently not under threat, this will not remain the case if this drags on and on.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Finishing in the playoffs is the first order of the season for all clubs, that IS their remit , then once there its a lottery because knock out footie is a great leveller.. glad it amused you
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Knock out footie a great leveller?
How many times has a team finishing outside the top 2 won the GF?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Surely it's cheaper not to go to a game when you factor in beer/food/transport.
Don't go again this season and it will save you a fortune'"
Never looked at it like that!
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| Quote ="Rock God X"We all know it's not just about three games. Try three years. Nothing has improved and it's not likely to.
It's getting a little hard to take you seriously, to be honest. The tone of your rhetoric last week was completely different to this. You can't be that indecisive, can you?'"
Depends who's logged on I think
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| Quote ="Isaiah"Come on Paul. If you believe that the club would think they can replace Agar with a like for like, then that (imho) is dumb thinking.
They will know that they have played the 'loyalty card' for far to long in regards the coach appointments. They may bring them in on a caretaker role, but they will know the fans expect them to deliver far better then what we have had.'"
The club have done it before, do you honestly think they will be saying 'we need a top class coach to appease the fans', now that would be dumb thinking imo.
I would not look past Macca.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"The club have done it before, do you honestly think they will be saying 'we need a top class coach to appease the fans', now that would be dumb thinking imo.
I would not look past Macca.'"
No. It won't happen. I'm going to will it not to.
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| If they appoint Macca as Agars replacement then we need rid of the Board imo.
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| If Macca got the job after Agar there would be a huge drop in pass sales.
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| Quote ="hullbg"If Macca got the job after Agar there would be a huge drop in pass sales.'"
Indeed. That's the one thing he did prove he was capable of achieving while at Bradford.
That and the all-time SL record for throwing away the biggest lead in a match
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| Quote ="Tongan Mafia"If they appoint Macca as Agars replacement then we need rid of the Board imo.'"
Quote ="garry brindley"Quote ="hullbg"If Macca got the job after Agar there would be a huge drop in pass sales.'"
Indeed. That's the one thing he did prove he was capable of achieving while at Bradford.
That and the all-time SL record for throwing away the biggest lead in a match
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He is nailed on then isnt he?
Might as well go down to the bookies and put a bet on macca for fc now
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| Quote ="Tongan Mafia"He is nailed on then isnt he?
Might as well go down to the bookies and put a bet on macca for fc now
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I'm on Betfair as we speak mate
I can just hear the Jimmy Rule mantra now:
'Steve is an FC legend'
'Steve is a local lad who understands the club'
'Steve is a former England coach'
repeat ad nauseam as the years of mediocrity keep rolling by....
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