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| Micheals scapegoated for Logan's inadequacies? Aside from the brain fart forward pass Micheals did little wrong, certainly wasn't at fault for the tries IMHO.
The tackling overall was awful and trying to score on every set (or so it seemed) was ridiculous, build some pressure and work from there. If it wasn''t for some very strong individual performances (Houghton & Shaul spring to mind) we'd have lost by a lot more.
We lost focus (far too often) which is what i feared and indeed Cas punished us, the players need to move on from the fact they played poorly and lost a golden chance to maintain the 100% record but Radford just has to nail down the mental aspect and drill it into the players that we have to be tight against good teams and be patient.
It's clear we have the talent but execution in defence & attack was very poor.
I'm very dissapointed with the result and some very dubious officiating at times but it was worth the 300+ mile round trip as the game overal was good.
Onwards and upwards
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| disappointing but cas deserved it, we made too many errors, basic errors too, gifting them at least 12 points early on
the only saving grace from this game was, even though we were poor we were a point down with two minutes to go, we still could have won it if pryce had ran at the line instead of kicking through on the 3rd, but it would have been an undeserved win
some of our senior players didnt turn up tonight imo
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| Far too much throwing the ball around pointlessly early in the tackle count rather than doing what worked for us in the 1st 2 games. radford bang on in his after match interview. Defence was a shambles at times I thought with far too many missed tackes and easy metres for cas and our edge defence on both sides looked likely to leak tries every time cas attacked there. Not a disaster and may do us good in the long run but we need to get back on the horse next week
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| A decent winger would of scored that try which got disallowed.
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| Also a lack of leadership on the pitch tonight which is disappointing given the numer of experienced players in the team
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| When the attacking side kicks, aren't players who are offside supposed to keep 10m away from the defending player catching the ball?
Or has this rule being kicked into touch as well?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Micheals scapegoated for Logan's inadequacies? Aside from the brain fart forward pass Micheals did little wrong, certainly wasn't at fault for the tries IMHO.
The tackling overall was awful and trying to score on every set (or so it seemed) was ridiculous, build some pressure and work from there. If it wasn''t for some very strong individual performances (Houghton & Shaul spring to mind) we'd have lost by a lot more.
We lost focus (far too often) which is what i feared and indeed Cas punished us, the players need to move on from the fact they played poorly and lost a golden chance to maintain the 100% record but Radford just has to nail down the mental aspect and drill it into the players that we have to be tight against good teams and be patient.
It's clear we have the talent but execution in defence & attack was very poor.
I'm very dissapointed with the result and some very dubious officiating at times but it was worth the 300+ mile round trip as the game overal was good.
Onwards and upwards'"
300 miles, great effort.
The thing is, if we can get a result against Wigan, we can almost forget about this one. Almost. Hopefully it'll be a learning curve.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Also a lack of leadership on the pitch tonight which is disappointing given the numer of experienced players in the team'"
Shocked your halves are not getting hammered in here. When your forwards got some momentum, Sneyd seemed anonymous and although Pryce did try, he was pretty poor in his decision making. If the transition between forwards and backs had been more varied and sharper I think you would have won.
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| i thought pryce looked knackered 20 minutes in
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| Quote ="Smiggs"I actually believe we will win comfortably. This Cas side isn't as good as the last few seasons imo (they drew with KR!!).'"
Makes our point look good...and we are,nt a "top four side" we are bottom two...
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I must admit I don't see how that can be your main conclusion after watching that game. Not sure pace on the wings played much of a part at all if any (maybe Hitchcox's second when a quicker man than Talanoa might have made a tackle). However I do think I prefer Naughton on the wing to Michaels.'"
Michaels putting the foot on the line was some of the worst wing finishing u see in the modern game. How is he not diving in? Dumbfounding
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| michaels and bowden to drop out next week. Start with pritchard with mini on the bench and to get more game time
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"Michaels putting the foot on the line was some of the worst wing finishing u see in the modern game. How is he not diving in? Dumbfounding'"
Was it Shaul that gave the pass, I thought he was going to go low and slide in, the pass was tossed to him with no room to move I'm not entirely sure it was a gimme either way, to chastise someone for not pulling off miraculous finishing is a bit harsh.
we lost as a team, pointing fingers at someone who was far far from our worst player isn't helpful.
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| micheals always gives his all, but maybe naughton or Lancaster can give us that x factor
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Was it Shaul that gave the pass, I thought he was going to go low and slide in, the pass was tossed to him with no room to move I'm not entirely sure it was a gimme either way, to chastise someone for not pulling off miraculous finishing is a bit harsh.
we lost as a team, pointing fingers at someone who was far far from our worst player isn't helpful.'"
It's a basic dive finish. Solomona had shown him twice although 1 chalked off. I'm comfortable in saying all the other 4 of our wingers would of finished it. Planting your feet (on the sideline) and placing the ball with little room when u can simply dive and in these times not even worry about the corner post. Should be finished every single time. 10 out of 10 times
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| I thought bowden again was pretty solid. Thought watts was quiet, put on his back too much. He needs to find his front or find an offload
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| No complaints about the defeat. Cas deserved their win.
Very poor start by Hull, but was impressed how we didn't panic in the first half and had squared it up by the break.
Thought we'd see the game out after Shaul's second try (that's 41 tries in 54 games now from Jamie). That was a sloppy penalty we gave them to draw level and was so predictable that we were silly to give it away. After that it was just going to be a one point shoot out. The final try was just academic as we try to force the last play.
Well done to Cas. I thought we'd win and win well. Cas showed up. It's not the end of the world, but hopefully we can learn from those quickly and put it right next week.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"Naughton has to be given a chance next week. We created a fair few overlaps which Talanoa and Michaels are just not quick enough to exploit. Michaels has also conceded a fair few tries already.Just a thought.'"
Its not Michaels fault.I have said several times before With Pryce defending next to Logan they are both jumping the line which creates the space as Michaels has to then come inside to cover.
Pryce did it gain tonight.He is the weak link in this team in my opinion.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Shocked your halves are not getting hammered in here. When your forwards got some momentum, Sneyd seemed anonymous and although Pryce did try, he was pretty poor in his decision making. If the transition between forwards and backs had been more varied and sharper I think you would have won.'"
You were dominant in the halves and centres where Webster and Crooks had great games plus wingers who finished off all their chances. Well played!
Saw another side of Pritchard tonight- his other nickname is Cranky Franky!
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| Jamie shaul has impressed me big time this season. Did pryce need to kick near the end? I'm certain it was 3rd tackle and we were floundering . 2 more drives then a match levelling drop goal fro 20 out?
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| Could've been a classic if Hicks had stayed out of it. He did us for so many small things we got too scared to hit hard and that cost us. Fair play to Cas for jumping at every chance they got.
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| Quote ="the cal train"Could've been a classic if Hicks had stayed out of it. He did us for so many small things we got too scared to hit hard and that cost us. Fair play to Cas for jumping at every chance they got.'"
Scratchy head Hicks is worse than Child and that's going some, his inconsistancy of decisions are baffling, Cas were the better team whatever the officials did/didn't do.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Scratchy head Hicks is worse than Child and that's going some, his inconsistancy of decisions are baffling, Cas were the better team whatever the officials did/didn't do.'"
Again its that 'consistency' word creeping in again, and we're only in round three!
I can understand that there will be some differences on a week by week basis, the speed and aggression of differing teams will dictate that, but not during a game...
I must admit getting caught up in the atmosphere doesn't help as a fan, but he did look to be punishing Hull for things both teams were guilty of. Need to watch it back really and see.
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| Did Marc Sneyd play last night or just kick goals?? He was very quiet for you. Its no good your huge pack doing the hard yards if your half backs aint there to throw the quick passes outwide and tun for gaps etc.... I think that was your downfall. No halfbacks controlling the game.
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| No complaints from me. Had as down for a win but have to take this one on the chin. Beaten by the better side on the night, not a disaster but a wake up call as some have said. Need to sure up out wide, we've been to easy to score against on the flanks in the 3 games we've played so far and it's not just the wingers at fault.
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