Who are the creditors? Is a big chunk of them season pass sales? Got anywhere with those other questions yet?

There is no detailed information on the creditors are, as you well know. I've posted the cash position. Why would I have access to AP's bank account? That's just crazy. Look, you've clearly stated that the financial position is OK and not materially different now to what it was a year ago. 2015 accounts won't be filed until next summer. Current credit ratings of the club's financial position and their change over the last year support my interpretation over yours. Get that Radford wheelie bin avatar going. Play to your strengths.

Why is the user agreement "becoming increasingly challenging"

It hasnt changed, we pay a set fee for the stadium up to 7500 (approx) people per game then after that we give half of ticket income to the SMC.

I said years ago the agreement was a mill stone to the club, loads had a pop at me saying how it was watertight and safeguarded our club "if times got hard"

Again no figures from AP, but we know in Kaths last year the club was pulling in £5mill pa, AP even admitted this. Hes not come out with a figure in recent years however.

You didnt choose to buy a pass,

And when Rovers launched their membership scheme 4 years back, plenty on here poked fun at them

and bosh, what do we do....

I'm fed up of the same waffle for the last 8 years, first kath, Rule now AP, all the same waffle.

I dont want to settle for 8th, or even 6th, unlike some, its time to do something

Dont worry, scrape a 6th and she'll be cartwheeling

I chose to buy a full pass for someone who'll attend maximum 2 games instead, we've done this about 5 times now. Keep repeating it, I'll keep repeating my response. Bring it.

What's our entitlement to anything more?

The longer we spend scraping 8th the more fans will leave us, and not return.

It ruined Huddersfield and thats why they have poor gates, once a generation gives up you wont ever get fans back.

What are you going to do? Or do you want someone else to do something?

If it will take a generation to get fans back, should we mothball the club for 20 years and start again? What's the point in trying in that case?

Not above insults now are we?

Hows that compare to Rovers, you had kittens last year over their score

Plenty on here stating how next years squad will be the best ever, new players are outstanding etc etc.

As a member of the club i was referring to the team

Hudders kept going with gates of 400, they have multplied their gates ten fold.


Even if we drop down to 3000 again i wouldnt be fussed, my only issue is i wouldnt be able to walk to games, costello is too far, so it'd be a bus

Cockle is a term of endearment, derived from the Latin for little heart. Deary me.

That's exactly my point, thanks for reinforcing it.

How many have stated that next year's squad will be our best ever squad? Cite me 5 posters claiming this please.

You do the searching, you like that

happy with scraping 6th?

Didn't Ken Davy sell his business for like £75 million? Maybe that helped.

I've checked and can't find any.




6th in the top flight would be above average in the context of my time supporting the club. So not delighted but about where we are. We don't have the resources of the Top 4, or Warrington, or Salford. Unfortunately.

Doubt he's ploughed even 15% of that into the club

In my time of supporting the club, we've been worse off, a lot worse off, the relative riches we have now and the level playing field with the salary cap we should have an even chance of being on a par with Huddersfield, they made top 4 with our fat reject running the show

£11m is still a lot of cash.