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| I see Steve Bruce has just confirmed he is a puppet, a mouth piece, a yes man, on Calendar and soon to be Look north
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"I see Steve Bruce has just confirmed he is a puppet, a mouth piece, a yes man, on Calendar and soon to be Look north
Utter joke'"
what did he say (don't get Calendar/Look North down here)
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I think he's got a buyer who wants it called Tigers myself but that's just my views of course..'"
I think that he's just not got anybody who he'll listen to when they say he's chatting .
When you're wealthy and successful and you've had years and years of 'yes, sir', it must be difficult in a way and there's a chance you won't react well to being challenged. That single-mindedness (or stubbornness) and egotism is part of the reason these dudes get on in the world. Which is great, while they're sharp and making good choices - when they're not, then suddenly the absence of brakes is an issue.
A new owner could earn some easy popularity by leaving it as City, at least.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"A new owner could earn some easy popularity by leaving it as City, at least.'"
"men" like the "Dr" very rarely make the right decisions, I often wonder why so many old people with money start throwing it away on football clubs!
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| Quote ="Standee"what did he say (don't get Calendar/Look North down here)'"
Basically Allam is the gaffer, without him there would be no club, hes the reason i'm here, he wants to change the name, but thats ok, he's the owner. He wants success etc.
This is after "i'll have a word so he understands the passion"
I think the meeting went:
Bruce: "Allam can i have a wor...."
Allam: "no, or you are sacked"
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Basically Allam is the gaffer, without him there would be no club, hes the reason i'm here, he wants to change the name, but thats ok, he's the owner. He wants success etc.
This is after "i'll have a word so he understands the passion"
I think the meeting went:
Bruce: "Allam can i have a wor...."
Allam: "no, or you are sacked"'"
I doubt you are far from the truth!
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Basically Allam is the gaffer, without him there would be no club, hes the reason i'm here, he wants to change the name, but thats ok, he's the owner. He wants success etc.
This is after "i'll have a word so he understands the passion"
I think the meeting went:
Bruce: "Allam can i have a wor...."
Allam: "no, or you are sacked"'"
I bet Allam was straight onto Bruce as soon as he made that statement after the Liverpool match with exactly what you said.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"As I see it Simon Clark likes Allam because he likes any one who doesn't like Adam Pearson, David Burns referred to him as a very nice man today, the fact is locally most of them are running scared, but the nationals don't scare easy!!!'"
Agree with you and Susie. Almost unanimously the support nationally both in the media and amongst other clubs' fans and players is anti-name change and eminently disapproving of Allam's ridiculous - and distasteful - recent public displays. This just makes the fawning sycophancy displayed from the local media appear even more contrived than it is.
Why do they do it? Amanda White, clearly scorned by Allam on air for having the temerity to interview him as a woman, comes out the next day to say she 'liked him'. Burns comes out with the glaringly obvious claptrap that he's a 'nice man', and takes the trouble to spread the word on Allam's behalf that the council have 'offered him the stadium freehold'. This has today been dismissed as absolute rubbish by a councillor, yet our local 'free' press and certainly not 'he's a nice man' Burns still raise no criticism against 'Dr' Allam (as they prefer to, vulgarly, refer to him).
It's sick-making. But I honestly don't know what they're scared of. What can he do to them? Instead they continue to embarrassingly prostrate themselves in front of him to lick his toes despite the popular opinion of the people they independently broadcast to currently being almost universally cynical of the man and his attitudes.
You'd have thought they'd have learned after Duffen. Burns is no fool, but he's making himself look one. Again. Grow a pair, do, Humberside and the Mail.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Agree with you and Susie. Almost unanimously the support nationally both in the media and amongst other clubs' fans and players is anti-name change and eminently disapproving of Allam's ridiculous - and distasteful - recent public displays. This just makes the fawning sycophancy displayed from the local media appear even more contrived than it is.
Why do they do it? Amanda White, clearly scorned by Allam on air for having the temerity to interview him as a woman, comes out the next day to say she 'liked him'. Burns comes out with the glaringly obvious claptrap that he's a 'nice man', and takes the trouble to spread the word on Allam's behalf that the council have 'offered him the stadium freehold'. This has today being dismissed as absolute rubbish by a councillor, yet our local 'free' press and certainly not 'he's a nice man' Burns still raise no criticism against 'Dr' Allam (as they prefer to, vulgarly, refer to him).
It's sick-making. But I honestly don't know what they're scared of. What can he do to them? Instead they continue to embarrassingly prostrate themselves in front of him to lick his toes despite the popular opinion of the people they independently broadcast to currently being almost universally cynical of the man and his attitudes.
You'd have thought they'd have learned after Duffen. Burns is no fool, but he's making himself look one. Again. Grow a pair, do, Humberside and the Mail.'"
Which councillor, and what was said, Wormy?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Which councillor, and what was said, Wormy?'"
I didn't hear it Mrs B, but read this tonight on City Independent messageboard:
Quote ="RonF"On the radio this morning a councilor came on and stated categorically that no offer had been made - I listened to it. He said the council's position is and always has been that if a formal (I think he said words to the effect of 'and serious') offer is made to the council it would ultimately be put to a referendum. Clearly that formal or serious offer (in the opinion of the council) has ever been made. My personal opinion has always been that Allam thought he could act as guarantor for City's loans, and get the stadium for nothing. (All I have ever heard is that the sports clubs pay next to nothing in rent for the place. If that is the case perhaps he thought the council considered the stadium of little value). When they wouldn't basically gift him the stadium (with which he would have built his sports village) (and rightly so sports village or not it is publicly owned and not to be given away to any private individual on a whim and a promise), he hinted at moving the club out of the city, and changed the away colours from the city colours. And now all this. The bloke is off his rocker. All of this makes us look as smalltime as we did under the last lot of crooks who were in charge when we made the Premier League. Trying to put any other spin on it is a ludicrous waste of time - but I guess that is partly what this forum is for so go for it! '"
It's amazing how all of a sudden the City fans can see straight through him .
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| Quote ="WormInHand"I didn't hear it Mrs B, but read this tonight on City Independent messageboard:
It's amazing how all of a sudden the City fans can see straight through him
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Cheers.
They seem a little hard of understanding "When they wouldn't basically gift him the stadium (with which he would have built his sports village) (and rightly so sports village or not it is publicly owned and not to be given away to any private individual on a whim and a promise) [uhe hinted at moving the club out of the city[/u"
Hinted? He said if he didn't get the freehold City would move to Melton, didn't he?
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| There's a hilarious video on the tubeofyou
They're Hull City Until They Die - Assem Allam's Name Change Plans
not fit for KIDS!
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| Quote ="WormInHand"Agree with you and Susie. Almost unanimously the support nationally both in the media and amongst other clubs' fans and players is anti-name change and eminently disapproving of Allam's ridiculous - and distasteful - recent public displays. This just makes the fawning sycophancy displayed from the local media appear even more contrived than it is.
Why do they do it? Amanda White, clearly scorned by Allam on air for having the temerity to interview him as a woman, comes out the next day to say she 'liked him'. Burns comes out with the glaringly obvious claptrap that he's a 'nice man', and takes the trouble to spread the word on Allam's behalf that the council have 'offered him the stadium freehold'. This has today being dismissed as absolute rubbish by a councillor, yet our local 'free' press and certainly not 'he's a nice man' Burns still raise no criticism against 'Dr' Allam (as they prefer to, vulgarly, refer to him).
It's sick-making. But I honestly don't know what they're scared of. What can he do to them? Instead they continue to embarrassingly prostrate themselves in front of him to lick his toes despite the popular opinion of the people they independently broadcast to currently being almost universally cynical of the man and his attitudes.
You'd have thought they'd have learned after Duffen. Burns is no fool, but he's making himself look one. Again. Grow a pair, do, Humberside and the Mail.'"
Wow bloody well said
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| don't know if its been said already, but can anyone see any of the other premier clubs changing their names,to say Manchester lions or nal bulls!!? I know the already have a strong brand but you know what I mean
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| Quote ="Standee"There's a hilarious video on the tubeofyou
They're Hull City Until They Die - Assem Allam's Name Change Plans
not fit for KIDS!'"
What a kn*b Jockey!!! says it all really!
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| Quote ="Standee"There's a hilarious video on the tubeofyou
They're Hull City Until They Die - Assem Allam's Name Change Plans
not fit for KIDS!'"
I watched that earlier this afternoon. He's very good
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"icon_lol.gif What a kn*b Jockey!!! says it all really!'"
And if hes not from Ull I don't know an Ull accent
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf" I think he's got a buyer who wants it called Tigers myself but that's just my views of course..'"
I don't think he has. The club is not worth the money he has invested to balance the books. He would only realise say £30m leaving him with loans outstanding to new buyers - its whether anyone would take that on. He is also taking a risk that the club get relegated and do a Portsmouth and then he might get 1p in the £ for his debt. I would agree he has backed himself into a corner in so many ways that he will struggle to get out and save face.
If City get relegated - he will blame the fans for disrupting the players.
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| Quote ="Mick Cranes Sidestep"If City get relegated - he will blame the fans for disrupting the players.'"
I honestly believe he's manufacturing that situation.
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| I still don't get how annoying the fanbase is going to increase revenues which was the whole reason for the name change in the first place. As someone said above people are interested in winning teams not gimmicky names
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| The thing with the DR is that he's a money grabbing wanna be Roman Chelsea.
He's only changing the name for better marketing around the world for more sponsors.
Yes many may say well done to him for trying to make Hull known worldwide, but his recent comments show that all he's after is money.
PS.. That video was hilarious
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| What are the odds that Hull Tigers are sponsored by Tiger Beer or Singapore Airlines.
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| Rather long I would think. Asian fans love winners - think Man U, Chelsea, Barcelona, etc. To think that corporate giants such as these would want to be associated with a battling team in only its 3rd season in the Premier League and risk upsetting the supporters of the bigger English and European clubs is somewhat optimistic.
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| Quote ="Standee""men" like the "Dr" very rarely make the right decisions, I often wonder why so many old people with money start throwing it away on football clubs!'"
He's not done too bad so far, the blokes worth god knows how many million!! Footballing wise hie decision to get rid of Barmby was a pretty good one (and very unpopular with the fan base) and to appoint Bruce worked well,
There is an argument that City are now in the press far more than they would/should have been without all this controversy. I don't for one minute think that was the intention but currently they are a lot more attractive to sponsors than a number of other PL clubs.
There could be a real publicity coup if there is a back down by Allam and as has been said sponsorship by a tiger related product would be ideal (can't see it happening by the way).
I don't think he has a buyer tho, maybe he has realised that he is throwing too much money at City and wants out, this would be an easy way to walk or stop investment. Either that or he's just as mad as a box of frogs and this is just what he does.
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| Quote ="barham red"He's not done too bad so far, the blokes worth god knows how many million!! Footballing wise hie decision to get rid of Barmby was a pretty good one (and very unpopular with the fan base) and to appoint Bruce worked well,
There is an argument that City are now in the press far more than they would/should have been without all this controversy. I don't for one minute think that was the intention but currently they are a lot more attractive to sponsors than a number of other PL clubs.
There could be a real publicity coup if there is a back down by Allam and as has been said sponsorship by a tiger related product would be ideal (can't see it happening by the way).
I don't think he has a buyer tho, maybe he has realised that he is throwing too much money at City and wants out, this would be an easy way to walk or stop investment. Either that or he's just as mad as a box of frogs and this is just what he does.'"
Covered all possibilities there BR.
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