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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"You know this already BL. Stats are not everything. How many times have those 'assists' been to another support player along side of him? Warrington push players through in numbers and when on song there's usually 3 or 4 of them following the break. Myler does not make the space, he has it made for him by the likes of Briers, Hodgson, Monaghan etc.
My main gripe with Myler is that he cannot dictate a game. The likes of Briers, Dobson et al can.'"
Tbh I have not seen enough of Myler to make a solid judgement on him, however I think it is harsh to say he is simply a support player when he has managed 16 try assists, from the few times I have seen him he appears a decent enough player not sure I would want him in our team though.
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"Makes me laugh, us hull fans would't want a half back that as a realistic chance of doing the double with his current team!! I think every single hull fan would have had myler before Pearson took the reins, the expectation levels of hull fans has just been notched up to the ridiculous, BUT saying that chase, holdsworth pairing would be my choice, and so so exciting for next season, come on you huuuuuuuuuuullllllllllaaaaaaaaaaa'"
Ryan Bailey has 4 SL winners rings.
I wouldn't want him either
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Ryan Bailey [uhas[/u 4 SL winners rings.
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That statement is incorrect
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| Quote ="Bet Lynch"16 try assist suggest to me he is more than a support player, Brier has 2 more at 18.'"
I agree with Locko's Luck, you can't just look at stats as they don't tell the full story. Ratchford's try the other week for example; the way the stats are recorded Myler will have an assist for that, but Briers put Ratchford through the gap, Ratchford made the line break, so the sum total of Myler's input was to back Ratchford up and play a one two to get round the fullback and recovering defence. How many times has he done that with Ratchford, Atkins, Riley, etc.?
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| Quote ="Hutchie"That statement is incorrect
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| Mark O'Meley says in the Hull Daily Mail today that the club hasn't approached him with regards a new contract.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Mark O'Meley says in the Hull Daily Mail today that the club hasn't approached him with regards a new contract.'"
Didn't realise he's only 29! Must have a few years left in him, if not for us then I hope we have a decent replacement lined up.
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| Quote ="BIGARR"Didn't realise he's only 29! Must have a few years left in him, if not for us then I hope we have a decent replacement lined up.'"
Its wrong, he is 31 (according to Wikpedia and HullfC.com) typical mail getting it wrong, Blake Green had a different age on successive days this week. He will be 32 in May next year.
He injury record hasn't been great for us so I would pass on resigning him.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"Its wrong, he is 31 (according to Wikpedia and HullfC.com) typical mail getting it wrong, Blake Green had a different age on successive days this week. He will be 32 in May next year.
He injury record hasn't been great for us so I would pass on resigning him.'"
He is a fantastic player imo. I think it is not coincidental that we have started winning now that he is back. We have some real go-forward with him in the team and the opposition know he is someone to be wary of whether they are carrying the ball or he is.
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| Quote ="downtheante"He is a fantastic player imo. I think it is not coincidental that we have started winning now that he is back. We have some real go-forward with him in the team and the opposition know he is someone to be wary of whether they are carrying the ball or he is.'"
I agree with this ^
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| Quote ="downtheante"He is a fantastic player imo. I think it is not coincidental that we have started winning now that he is back. We have some real go-forward with him in the team and the opposition know he is someone to be wary of whether they are carrying the ball or he is.'"
Totally agree said about 3 months ago we should look to extend his deal.
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| Don't think re-signing an Aussie import, the wrong side of 30 who's missed more games than he's played this year is a good idea, despite the impact he has.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Don't think re-signing an Aussie import, the wrong side of 30 who's missed more games than he's played this year is a good idea, despite the impact he has.'"
Nationality (or being an "import"icon_wink.gif is irrelevant. Props aged 30+ are numerous and effective. O Meley has played more games this season than 2 of our rumoured signings who have been long term injured despite being young. Players who have a real impact on the way the team players are valuable players IMO. Of course if he were to leave, as seems likely, then provided his like for like replacement is as good or better then the team as a whole will not be affected. If his replacement isn't as good then we will have weakened at a player for player level.
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| Quote ="downtheante"He is a fantastic player imo. I think it is not coincidental that we have started winning now that he is back. We have some real go-forward with him in the team and the opposition know he is someone to be wary of whether they are carrying the ball or he is.'"
i agree...
i think we should offer him a 1 year extension to be reviewed at end of each season pending on performance/injuries.
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| Quote ="*H*FC"i agree...
i think we should offer him a 1 year extension to be reviewed at end of each season pending on performance/injuries.'"
Maybe because of other signings it's a simple case of not being able to keep him and stay under the salary cap. I should imagine that he is one of our top earners and maybe we need the slice of cap for someone else?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Nationality (or being an "import"icon_wink.gif is irrelevant. Props aged 30+ are numerous and effective. O Meley has played more games this season than 2 of our rumoured signings who have been long term injured despite being young. Players who have a real impact on the way the team players are valuable players IMO. Of course if he were to leave, as seems likely, then provided his like for like replacement is as good or better then the team as a whole will not be affected. If his replacement isn't as good then we will have weakened at a player for player level.'"
Good summary of the situation, I also think he is worth another year, like I have mentioned before not only for his impact on the pitch but also the mentorship he could offer our younger players.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Nationality (or being an "import"icon_wink.gif is irrelevant. Props aged 30+ are numerous and effective. O Meley has played more games this season than 2 of our rumoured signings who have been long term injured despite being young. Players who have a real impact on the way the team players are valuable players IMO. Of course if he were to leave, as seems likely, then provided his like for like replacement is as good or better then the team as a whole will not be affected. If his replacement isn't as good then we will have weakened at a player for player level.'"
I find his nationality very relevant, given the non-fed rules. If he's only playing 50% or less of the games then I'd rather his spot go to a homegrown player.
There is however, rumours that his injury was mis-diagnosed/mis-managed which meant a longer rehabilitation period, I personally think he's been replaced already, by Liam Watts. O'Carroll has been replaced by Green/Bowden and we just need to replace Moa.
I would just rather we didn't go down the route of signing 30+ Aussies full stop.
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| He is worth another year on reduced terms, he said in an interview that when he retires he will go back to oz and get a job in a mine. Can't take a huge some of money to tempt him to stay for another year surely if that's what he has planned? One more year playing for Hull must be a better option than that. Plus you are a long time retired!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"I find his nationality very relevant, given the non-fed rules.'"
Depends on whether we need his place for another non fed player - otherwise it's irrelevant.
Quote If he's only playing 50% or less of the games then I'd rather his spot go to a homegrown player.'"
In the sport of RL how can it be predicted how many games a player will play ? Injuries are part of the game.
Quote There is however, rumours that his injury was mis-diagnosed/mis-managed which meant a longer rehabilitation period, I personally think he's been replaced already, by Liam Watts. O'Carroll has been replaced by Green/Bowden and we just need to replace Moa.'"
And if Moa is replaced by someone better than Moa/O Meley then fair enough as I said.
Quote I would just rather we didn't go down the route of signing 30+ Aussies full stop.'"
Even if they're the best players available in their positions regardless of nationality ?
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| Seem to remember O'Meley saying that throughout his career he always seemed to have a season with some injuries then an injury free season the next. So if this is true that means I'd sign him on for another year if we have not used his quota spot and no better else is available that would be an improvement.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Seem to remember O'Meley saying that throughout his career he always seemed to have a season with some injuries then an injury free season the next. So if this is true that means I'd sign him on for another year if we have not used his quota spot and no better else is available that would be an improvement.'"
Based on that science we must be stupid not to have offered him a contract....
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| Quote ="mikey471"Maybe because of other signings it's a simple case of not being able to keep him and stay under the salary cap. I should imagine that he is one of our top earners and maybe we need the slice of cap for someone else?'"
very good and valid point.
but surely as someone else has mentioned,maybe get him on reduced terms,especially if he is going to be going back to aus and retiring.
he is a settled player in the squad,and next year as you know,with all the new players,we need to get them settled and gelled,and with the youngsters and new players,will help having a regular and experienced player to help lead the way?
or am i just talking crap
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| Yep lets keep O'Meley as hes been fantastic so far against Widnes............oh hang on a minute
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Yep lets keep O'Meley as hes been fantastic so far against Widnes............oh hang on a minute
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Been on hols Seb? We didn't hear off you after the Catalans game.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Yep lets keep O'Meley as hes been fantastic so far against Widnes............oh hang on a minute
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Hull's best forward along with Lynch. You are one clueless individual.
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