A large chunk of that increase has been down to successive governments massaging the unemployment figures by moving people from the Dole/JSA to Incapacity Benefit where they no longer count on the total. A large proportion of the claimants being removed from IB and put back onto JSA will fall into that category rather than being deliberate benefit fiddlers or the work-shy.

That would depend on a number of factors, including what activities your job entailed and what illness/injury you were signed off with. For example, my wife has managed to break both her ankles in the last 6 years (not both at the same time, fortunately). On both occasions she was signed off work for several weeks. She was not expected to stay at home 100% of the time.

It's not an opinion, it's fact. The best treatment for depression isn't sitting at home all day. The pressures of being in the workplace can quite easily exacerbate a mental health problem, whereas a trip to the cinema (and other similar activities) might actually help in its treatment.



For a start, he wouldn't - my employer is me. Secondly, see Kosh's answer.

I just don't get what part of his job barring public appearances (Playing/signing autographs etc) would be seen as causing further problems towards a stress based illness.

I think we should have a capital punishment discussion next to see who would re-introduce the death penalty

I imagine you would only want it for CEO's

so cinema and watching darts is helpful whereas training and playing rugby isnt,gotcha

It is difficult to answer on individual cases, however generally if a client is suffering an episode of stress/anxiety/depression they will be feeling very low, it is highly likely they are suffering with sleep & possible eating problems due to lack of appetite. The treatment will consist of a plan for the individual to feel strong again and resume their daily routines (work included), this can take a few weeks, months or years.They maybe offered medication and/or counselling also it is worth noting their employers often send for reports from their GP/mental health team.

No not if the training/playing rugby was one of the triggers for the individuals condition.

Defiantly one for the off season, that is a very interesting debate. Also euthanasia generally produces a good debate.

it wasnt

....Your not going to tell us you are his GP are you ?

Let us be honest here you do not know that, you are just putting 2 +2 together and getting 8!

Training and playing rugby is his job. So what you're saying is that leisure/relaxation is helpful and work is not. Which, in many cases, is indeed correct.

I was under the assumption that work was not a contributory factor to the stress

I've highlighted the relevant word for you that renders the rest of your sentence worthless.

And even if your assumption were correct, do you really think that someone who may well be medicated, not sleeping well, and not eating properly is in a fit condition to train for and play in a sport like pro RL?

It is no good any of us assuming or surmising as we simple do not know what has triggered or contributes to his stress. Work may not be the cause but once the illness triggered work may well contribute more to the illness.

...and dayvoz gets the award for daftest comment on RLFANs today award.

Fairy Nuff

Don't buy his stress related illness personally but that's just me

Yeah, but, you know, he should just get over it. You know, get a grip (what other good ones are they, oh yes...), snap out of it.

The shear ignorance of the severity of depression, and the idiocy of suggesting that going to the cinema is proof that he is well enough to work is truly shocking.

I appreciate it is often a difficult illness to understand, however like mentioned it can be a very dangerous illness, and I sincerely hope you can go through your life without a loved one or yourself becoming a victim.

The reality is not that many supporters buy that he has Stress/Depression. Therefore the sympathy level is going to be minimal at best.

And there is the problem in this whole debate - my opinion is that a lot of people on here are arguing about the issue of stress releated illnesses and what they really want to say is that their gut feeling is that we have a Hull FC player that is taking the p**s.

People need to stop talking round their opinions, and call a spade a spade.

Done a poll have you?

Ah, yes, but he went to the darts as well.

You don't 'buy' it? FFS. What is it with conspiracy theorists on here?